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Flynn - Kislyak Transcripts

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8rnbft, May 29, 2020.

  1. gaterzfan

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    Sure you do just as most Trump hating liberals think it’s a meaningful crime. Trump hating liberals are just so far out of touch with the rest of America. Truly sad.
     
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  2. dangolegators

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    No he hasn't. Flynn is a nutcase. He never should have been appointed by Trump in the first place. That he was out of the administration in less than a month proves the point.
     
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  3. mdgator05

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    Poll: Two-thirds say Flynn guilty plea in Trump-Russia probe is a ‘serious matter’

    Hmm, seems like my position that felonies are significant is more in line with public opinion than your opinion that some felonies aren't just because...
     
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  4. mutz87

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    So much for personal responsibility, eh? Pubs have abandoned that value like rats on sinking ship...as the saying goes.

    He lied. He pled. His choice to do both. He wasn't some powerless everyday joe getting screwed over. But keep excusing away.

    And by the way, the prosecution of Flynn came under Trump's watch.
     
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  5. ursidman

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    If Flynn was doing exactly what was expected of an incoming NSA ...... why lie about it? Multiple times? Even to guys supposedly on his team?
     
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  6. PerSeGator

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    We all suspected. Now we know.
     
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  8. gatorknights

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    I'll defer to our legal experts here but if you did it and admitted to it, you just might be guilty. If you did it but didn't get busted, doesn't mean you didn't do it.
     
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  9. PerSeGator

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    Also, if the issue is that lying to the FBI truly isn't significant, the solution isn't to give a break to the president's friends . . . and only the president's friends. It's to create reforms that apply across the board.
     
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  10. CaptUSMCNole

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    First, it is still questionable that he did lie about to the FBI. As to the Pence issue, Lake lays out a best argument in the podcast. It starts at about the 27 minute mark. It's easier to listen that than for me to type out.
     
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  11. CaptUSMCNole

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    It is exactly the right question to be asking. The fact you will not answer it is hurting your argument. Unless you are willing to actually answer the question, I won't "get over it." I'd be saying the same thing if this had happened to Susan Rice in '08.

    The FBI needs a predict to question you about something and any falsehoods have to be material. Neither happened in this case. That is unless, you think based on the transcripts, Flynn was a willing, active agent of the Russian government.
     
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  12. ursidman

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    If that is the case, and I'm not conceding it is, why plead guilty to it. Twice. Flynn must have thought it was a lie.
     
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  13. gaterzfan

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    Surely you jest. Come on you’re much smarter than that. You have to be joking.

     
  14. CaptUSMCNole

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    Flynn was $6M in debt at that point and the FBI was threatening to go after his son as well. Flynn was essentially broke and he wanted the pain to end and probably told his lawyer to get the best deal they could. This is pretty common as 98% criminal convictions come from plea bargains.
     
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  15. gaterzfan

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    Lol, A poll by politico? Come on are you serious? How do you know that that is even remotely accurate? You don’t and it’s a joke just like so many of the opinions concerning the seriousness of Flynn’s “crimes”. You can’t keep it up. I guess it must make you feel good to continue this meaningless discourse.

     
  16. mutz87

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    It's pretty simple. Flynn lied to the FBI. There's no escaping this. He also lied to Pence and was fired for it. He also pled guilty, having high powered attorneys representing him. In other words, this wasn't big bad government railroading him, this was a powerful political actor who effed up and was being held to account. The effort to undo this is to not hold him accountable for his choices.

    It's also fact that Mueller is a pub and was appointed by Rosenstein, another pub and was Trump's appointee to the #2 position at DOJ.
     
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  17. gaterzfan

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    Seriously???? You actually believe the stttuuuufffff you’re typing??????

     
  18. mdgator05

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    Okay, you made a claim that, and I am quoting you here:

    My evidence to support that you were wrong: A poll showing that Americans considered it a serious issue. Beyond that, felonies are generally considered, by the legal system, to be serious crimes.

    Your evidence to back your statement: Empty set.

    Let me know if you add any evidence to back your claims. As of yet, you have none.
     
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  19. nolancarey

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    Was he that far in debt when he had the phonecall?
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    You would think all of that money he accepted from Turkey to lobby for them without telling anybody would have paid for a nice defense. I guess crime didn't pay...
     
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