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Florida becomes the 2nd State to ban flouride in the drinking water

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, May 15, 2025.

  1. MarineG8R

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    I think you’ll start to see a switch to nano hydroxyapatite. A lot of pediatric dentists in my area are strictly recommending it. I don’t care either way. Fluoride has its place and this will likely hurt the poor but the crap people eat and drink is a bigger issue IMO.


    I feel dirty.
     
  2. G8trGr8t

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    Your willingness to look at the real data in lieu of the emotional reasoning. Peculiar, typical of maga for some unknown reason.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    Medicaid cover that?
     
  4. Endless Excuses

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    So you love good bacteria like Syphilis which killed 5 million people and Gonorrhea which infected 80 million worldwide a year. You must be a joy at parties trying to hook up with the ladies with a poltus of garlic around your neck and a UV light inserted somewhere (not asking) trying to convince the ladies that these wonderful STDs get your immune system all primed for "the fornication".
     
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  5. StrangeGator

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    So stupid. Glad all but one of my nine nieces and three nephews, nor their children and grandchildren will ever live in Florida. The one that's staying has life long health issues and needs to be near her parents. The last two left the state for school, both in New York.
     
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  6. QGator2414

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    You are better than the bs “maga” crap.

    In our practice we have moved dramatically in who we recommend get fluoride treatment due to the research on the subject. We could make a lot more money ignoring the research and following the dogma but our patients health is the reason we practice.

    Fluoride in water is a real issue. I am not even advocating it be removed. But ignoring what science is finding because the dogma says so is lazy and dangerous.
     
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  7. GratefulGator

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    It's clear to me that you don't know very many people. As a dentist, do I qualify as a "Critical Thinking Person?" I've studied the risks and benefits of fluoridation extensively and I wholeheartedly recommend fluoride-fortified water for municipal water.

    This fervor over fluoridation is ridiculous, mainly by ignorant people who have read an article or two from some unscrupulous website who now think they are experts wrt fluoride.

    It's in a dentist's best financial interest to be against fluoridation, yet most dentists still overwhelming recommend fluoride, because we know from scientific studies and anecdotal evidence that it helps to prevent caries, especially in children.

    This anti-science rhetoric is just plain stupid. I'm sure these same people aren't anti-science when they are ill and need to see a physician.
     
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  8. GratefulGator

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    I actually agree with this paragraph from your post. The other paragraphs in your post is just your layman's opinion.
     
  9. Gatorrick22

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    Why do you care so much about this? You can still eat toothpaste if you feel the need for flouride in your system.

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  10. vaxcardinal

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    Sounds like the 1st dentist was telling you the most likely scenario but not necessarily guaranteed to happen.
     
  11. Endless Excuses

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    These same people clamoring for more testing of fluoridation because "they think" its not safe are also the same ones loading up right now on Ozempic and semaglutides. They couldnt care one bit about side effects, minimal studies on non diabetics or even what country it is made in when they get their generic version mixed out of someones trunk in the flea market because they dont want to pay for the brand name. If fluoride made them lose 30 pounds "the easy way" they would drink gallons of it...
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    It’s not like we weren’t warned …

     
  13. Endless Excuses

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    Tuberculosis 1 Billion lives lost
    Cholera 800,000 killed in 1910 alone
    Black Death/Bubonic plague 14th century 200 million people (1/2 of all people alive in Europe at the time)...some countries lost 90% of their population in less than a year.
    You want MRSA today...good luck with that.
    Salmonella...fun fun fun.
    Shigella
    Typhoid

    Here is a nice run down so you can educate yourself...none of these "DEI woke good bacteria" are cured with hydroxychloroquine, dewormer or cod liver oil. Im not sure driving around with a rotten decaying whale head on your car will help either. Being unaware of the existence of "bad bacteria" just demonstrates that your comments related to anything about medicine are just flat out infantile and misguided. Certainly the current administration could and probably would find you a senior level position advising the country about how to keep the public safe and healthy.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    Pure ignorance!

    This is real science happening now. There are so many stuck in the dogma. Like heart disease. Look at cholesterol and take a statin (I take a statin but for many reasons beyond cholesterol).
     
  15. duggers_dad

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    Most doctors overwhelmingly recommend statins.
     
  16. wgbgator

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    I'm not even sure dental insurance covers that yet. Its good stuff, but out of pocket its not cheap. If its the same thing I'm thinking of, the dentists applies it per tooth where they see potential cavity formation. Between 4 applications and xrays, it was the most I've ever spent on dental work. Fillings are cheaper so I would imagine many will just see if the cavity forms before doing anything.
     
  17. duggers_dad

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    Doctors still taking BMI and recommending low fat diets.
     
  18. QGator2414

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    This is another dogma that needs to be addressed. And I take simvistatin. But statins are likely over prescribed. At a crazy rate…
     
  19. FutureGatorMom

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    For those who cite other countries that do not fluoridate their water, here's why:
    These countries don't fluoridate their water – here's why

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    However, countries that ceased water fluoridation programmes did not say that they did so because authorities there were concerned about public safety, says lead author Mary Rose Sweeney, a public health researcher who at the time of publication was working at Dublin City University in Ireland and now works at Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland and is vice president of the European Public Health Association's nutrition section.

    Instead, some countries cited public complaints, such as from people who thought it was a violation of their human rights, or said it was up to individuals to manage their own fluoride intake. Others pointed to the fact that their populations got enough fluoride elsewhere. Of 11 countries that had ceased their fluoridation programmes, only two cited questions about safety and efficacy – Finland said fluoride's efficacy hadn't been proved, while the Czech Republic cited "debates" about fluoridation's safety and efficacy. None said they stopped fluoridation because they had determined that fluoride was harmful.



    For some of those populations, fluoride was naturally available in drinking water but for others, certain food and drink products contained fluoride. According to the 2018 report, Bulgaria fluoridated its milk while Greece added the mineral to bottled water.

    These differing approaches to fluoridation exist outside the EU as well, says Zohoori, who is currently leading a study comparing national fluoridation schemes in Brazil, the UK, Colombia, and Chile. "Some countries, like Switzerland, have fluoridated salt," she says. "Brazil has fluoridated water; Colombia, fluoridated salt; Chile, fluoridated


    Doesn't sound like they are following Kennedy's "science"
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Because presence is causation and I somehow missed it. Ex: three day old road kill will certainly be teeming with bacteria. Ergo, bacteria killed the possum. You are summarily dismissed.