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Five Year Murder Rate Trends: COVID-19 Found To Be The Primary Driver of Murder Rates Nationwide

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Contra, Jul 1, 2025 at 3:53 PM.

  1. Contra

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    This is interesting:

    "We're seeing really not just declines, but large declines and large across-the-board declines. I mean, it's everywhere," Asher says.

    Researchers who study crime caution that no one thing causes violence to rise or fall, but Asher and other crime analysts have zeroed in on what they say is a primary driver of the rise and subsequent decline: the COVID-19 pandemic.

    John Roman, who directs the Center on Public Safety & Justice at NORC, a research group at the University of Chicago, said they wanted to figure out why crime rose and then fell in recent years.

    "The only thing that happened in America during this period that is of that same scale is the pandemic. And what the pandemic really did was it changed how you spend your day, what you do."
    https://www.npr.org/2025/06/30/nx-s...ionwide-covid?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

    Maybe we need to update the number of people who died from COVID. ;)
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    Well, we can finally defund the police and give it to the CDC I suppose
     
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  3. mdgator05

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    Wait, you mean it wasn't Biden, Democrats, immigrants, or scary people from cities?

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  4. Gatorrick22

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    Still NOT a good reason to defund the police nor to cut police spending. Give it a few more years...
     
  5. BLING

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    Many things had a “pent up demand” from all the stay at home of 2020. Violence was just another one. So it’s not surprising there was a spike of violence and then a return to normal. I guess it’s surprising that something like this actually did better than return to trend. I suspect that too is a temporary phenomenon.
     
  6. wgbgator

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    Well the one thing we know is that cops had nothing to do with the murder rate declining, perhaps if we dont defund them, we can put them to work picking up litter and cleaning graffiti, they might actually be good at those things. And if a piece of trash gets accidentally shot by a frightened cop, no costly settlement paid by the taxpayer.
     
  7. mdgator05

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    It could be a trough, where it will tick back up a bit or it might actually just be the continuation down that we would have seen without the shock to the system.
     
  8. G8tas

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    So it actually wasn't Biden's fault
     
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  9. Gator515151

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    Sure enough now find excuses for the rest of Biden's failures.
     
  10. wgbgator

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    You guys already put out the excuse of him being mentally incompetent, so I guess he's scot free
     
  11. duggers_dad

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    Wherein ‘Covid-19’ refers entirely to onerous restrictions on association that fostered pent-up rage, alienation and despair.
     
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    He definitely failed at attempting to do worse than the guy before him
     
  13. Contra

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    Lol, I don’t agree on that one. In multivariate analysis there can be several contributing factors with the primary factor having the strongest influence on the output variable. COVID-19 (and the draconian lockdowns, furloughing, social isolation, etc that went with it) appears to be the most significant factor in the rollercoaster type trend that went up in 2020 and 2021 and came down the past couple of years. The defunding the police movement happened right around the time the murder rate spiked, as did couping people up in their houses, and forcing social isolation upon them (except for BLM mass protests).
     
  14. wgbgator

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    Did you ever consider that some of the largest protests in US history also occured because people where shut-in and unemployed in 2020 rather than "woke" run amok?
     
  15. Contra

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    Again, multivariate analysis recognizes there can be multiple causal factors with degrees of influence on an output variable. People being shut-in and unemployed could certainly be a contributing variable, but there also could be other factors that contributed to the number of people who went out and protested with BLM. It is certainly possible social contagion and social media were other contributing factors alongside people being unemployed and isolated.
     
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