Final Stake in the Steele Dossier and Russiagate

Despite your bullcrap headline, Russiagate did occur, and it might have altered the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Clearly, Putin wanted Trump to win, and he made significant efforts to help that cause. The Russians planted all sorts of misinformation on social media, they hacked documents from the DNC that WikiLeaks released to the public, they met with Manafort, Kushner and Trump,Jr., which Trump tried to cover up, and the Trump team fully cooperatedSo say what you want, but it’s typical Trumpian garbage.

 

Reminder: he was never impeached for Russian meddling. He denied they meddled, aligned with Putin’s denial in Helsinki, and discarded the intelligence that even GOP senators believed that they meddled.

He was impeached for Ukraine blackmail and Jan 6th. Russia gate is a red herring.

 

Is this true?

 

Has the impact ever been quantified?

 

I think that’s probably impossible to do.

 

You are one damned hard headed dude!!

 

Everything he just stated is accurate, Mr. Doesn’t read.

 

My recollection was they didn’t have enough evidence to proceed for pressing charges of criminal conspiracy, which is a pretty serious crime. “Collusion” wasn’t a crime per se. It was clearly worded that it was not an exoneration of his activities.

So I would say the statement is partly not true.

 

I read the OP and the rest of the linked introduction but didn’t go much further. I’m flummoxed as I would think the particular source would be a reputable source although I don’t know much about it. However right off the bat they start by framing Trump as a victim, and don’t even mention all the surrounding smoke that lead the media and the FBI to suspect fire.

It seems like the piece had an objective right off the bat, to prove media abuse of Trump, as opposed to objectively looking at the whole picture. Perhaps that was addressed in the body of the piece but given the framing of the issue I lost interest.

 

Of course this is false.

Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House

 

There was insufficient evidence to pursue a criminal conviction. There was all kinds of evidence that Russia tried to influence the election. Whether it was in itself enough to swing the close election is not provable either way. There is no question that Putin preferred Trump. There is no question that Trump has a long history with Russian interests. There is no question that Trump had an inexplicable relationship to Putin. There is no question that key advisors, especially Manafort, were influenced by Russian interests. There is no question trump publicly called for Russia to hack DNC servers, and the Russians started eventually successful efforts within hours of Trumps call. If Trump called Putin privately and asked him to do that there is little question that would be a criminal activity.

Trump did everything in his power, presumably due to incompetence, to make it look like he was guilty. So, sorry, not sorry.

 

Nonsense, but I wouldn’t expect you to admit what this four part essay (from Columbia no less) says. It was painfully obvious since 2017 that the press was heavily invested in a narrative, and would stop at nothing including making things up to further it.

Have you ever heard of a Special Counsel having to make a public statement on a Friday night after 8:00 to stop media hysteria in the reporting of a total fabrication? I haven’t, but Mueller had to do it.

This paper was a long, long overdue account and indictment of the crap that was spread under the guise of journalism.

 

So here we have a thread that basically destroys the press over their handling of this opposition created narrative and you post another nonsensical article just like the ones that the paper indicted as horscrap. Amazing.

 

So what did that article say about this set of documents, specifically?

 

No. Forget his tortured testimony. Read his report. Its thorough, comprehensive and damning.

 

Fortunately, you don’t need the press (nor Bill Barr) to interpret the Mueller report for you. You can read it yourself.

DocumentCloud

Likewise you can read the Senate Intel report which lays out what we know about Russian efforts to help Trump win (detailing stuff the Russian intelligence apparatus did that were not necessarily tied to Trump or were outside the scope of Mueller’s investigation).

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

 

Apparantiy because Columbia Journalism Review critiqued the overzealousness of some of the press reporting, he thinks the [checks notes] Columbia School of Journalism discredits *all* journalism, thus any link you provide must be false. That is the apparent takeaway being pushed.

Obviously this is kind of distrust the “press is the enemy of the people” malcontents want to foment, as it removes accountability. So convenient for political crooks to just scream “fake news” and have fools like this parrot them.