FDA to require clinical trials on Covid booster for healthy people

mdgator05 · May 23, 2025 at 11:59 AM

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I'm guessing that you didn't read this paper, did you? Here is a fun thing to look forward to if you want to do so: the comparison wasn't Pfizer vs. nothing. It was Pfizer vs. Moderna. That paper makes a sinewhat good case for the Moderna vaccine, although the lack of controls for selection effects limits it's usefulness.

duggers_dad · May 23, 2025 at 12:59 PM

A Facebook friend of mine contracted GBS from her second Moderna shot in 2021, this confirmed by her physician. Nearly four years on and she’s still in therapy.

QGator2414 · May 23, 2025 at 2:48 PM

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100, 15, 9, 103,432,642. These are all hard numbers. Without context, they are meaningless. Again, I'll ask, imagine if you're in a Squid Game type show, and you have a choice. Enter a room where 3 people will die? Or enter a room where 9 people will die. Which do you choose?

Well, according to your "hard numbers," it's better to choose the room where only 3 people die. But what if the room where 3 people die have only 3 people in it, and the room where 9 people die have 97 people? Which room gives you a better chance the live?

And while the CDC didn't release "hard numbers" themselves, they put the information out there so others can extrapolate the hard numbers. You can find deaths from Sept 21 through Aug 22 in this link. Yes, the vaccinated make up more of the people dying than the unvaccinated. But that's because there are significantly more people vaccinated than unvaccinated. Especially at older age populations, which were more susceptible to the virus.

As the link put it:

During the early rollout of vaccines, vaccinated people represented a small share of total deaths, but experts warned that the share would likely rise simply because vaccinated people were representing a growing share of the population. In other words, if 100% of people in the U.S. were vaccinated, vaccinated people would represent 100% of COVID-19 deaths. Similarly, as the share of the population with a booster rose somewhat during 2022, the share of deaths among boosted people also rose. COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death, but they are not perfect, so deaths among vaccinated people will still occur.
Indeed, vaccinated people now make up the majority of the population – 79% of adults have completed at least the primary series – and the latest CDC data show that vaccinated people also now represent the majority of COVID-19 deaths. There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people, and vaccinated and boosted people are, on average, older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes. That’s why, when CDC adjusts for some of these factors (age and population size), we still see that
Indeed, vaccinated people now make up the majority of the population – 79% of adults have completed at least the primary series – and the latest CDC data show that vaccinated people also now represent the majority of COVID-19 deaths. There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people, and vaccinated and boosted people are, on average, older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes. That’s why, when CDC adjusts for some of these factors (age and population size), we still see that unvaccinated people are at much greater risk of death and other severe outcomes than people the same age who have stayed up-to-date on boosters. Older people are at greater risk for severe illness and death from COVID-19 than younger people, but vaccines and boosters still lower that risk substantially.

You go on using your "hard numbers" analysis only, and keep choosing the idiotic room where 3 out of 3 people die because in "hard numbers" 3 is less than 9!
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Well you want to believe the BS the cdc put out...that is on you to be that naive. You already posted a complete lie and admitted the information was false and still want to use the information they put out without the hard numbers.

I highly recommend you watch start informing yourself on the shot you kept pumping yourself and kids with. The hearing from you the other day is just the beginning for someone like you...

duggers_dad · May 23, 2025 at 3:17 PM

A former co-worker of mine was bedridden for a year with GBS, this from a flu vaccine, confirmed by his physician.

vaxcardinal · May 24, 2025 at 6:37 AM

duggers_dad said: ↑

A Facebook friend of mine contracted GBS from her second Moderna shot in 2021, this confirmed by her physician. Nearly four years on and she’s still in therapy.
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Friend of mine got GBS before covid even came out. Guessing he was an overachiever

duggers_dad · May 24, 2025 at 7:42 AM

vaxcardinal said: ↑

Friend of mine got GBS before covid even came out. Guessing he was an overachiever
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Well, you don’t need a vaccine to get GBS.

But it sure does help!

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