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FDA cancels bird flu vaccine research

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, May 29, 2025 at 4:06 PM.

  1. QGator2414

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    I looked at the hard data and dug in to realize the BS pushed by the cdc that propagandized you. You are a very small minority that never figured it out. You have to understand the big picture to navigate it. When Doctors like Dr. Fraiman started to finally tell the truth about hospitalizations. It was clear the propaganda was just that…BS in an attempt to control. It is why you cannot provide the hard numbers. Because they would end the narrative you still believe.

    This disease was dangerous to old people. We could have saved far more lives with cheap therapeutics. Instead a few still think they need to inflame their body for no reason. Like you.
     
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  2. l_boy

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    even though now with likely over a billion shots, and no evidence of any unusual dangers, beyond the remote risks of any vaccine, they are still concerned?

    That could have been a plausible argument back in 2021, but makes no sense whatsoever now.
     
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  3. AzCatFan

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    We're back to the hard numbers BS again? Again, every study from every country shows a reduction in hospitalizations and deaths from the vaccine for all ages 12 and older. Here's a link from a Canadian source. One from the EU. And this from Australia.

    But hey, what do they know? They don't have "hard numbers!" Which of course, is a made up, BS phrase that signifies only the poster's ignorance.
     
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  4. QGator2414

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    Yes we are let’s see the hard numbers. Not some BS study…
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    Which source will you trust?
     
  6. AzCatFan

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    And what do you think the study numbers are based on?
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    The actual numbers provided by England over the BS that did not match reality from the cdc. Dr. Fraiman saying he has seen one person admitted for Covid while the msm peddles the BS from the cdc.

    It was not hard to see the BS. Hence the shift happened fairly quickly from a majority of people. If you wanted to extrapolate the situation you could. Or even ask your doctor. It did not take long for most doctors to realize they were lied to by the cdc. Or you could be lazy and just listen to the BS from the cdc.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    Who knows. They never provided the hard numbers. Just believe because it says “study” is all you need. I get that…
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    Lazy? Lazy is writing a paper that wrongly cites papers to come to the wrong conclusion. It's why several groups have called for a retraction to the papers you like that cite "real numbers."

    One major issue, for example, is looking at negative health effects of the vaccine but not comparing them to similar health options that occur because of infection. If you look at the vaccine and say 1.5 cases out of 1000 of myocarditis after vaccination in young males is bad, it only tells part of the story. The other part is a much higher rate of incidence and severity from infection.

    I'll put it this way. Which is a better outcome? 2 cases power 100000 of myocarditis and 0 hospitalizations? Or 10 cases in 100000 and 1 in the hospital?
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    “no evidence of any unusual dangers” …

     
  11. QGator2414

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    Forget the hiding/lying about adverse events. Forget the fact the disease is not dangerous to most. What’s better? Causing inflammation to your body with no protection from getting the disease. Or letting your body do what it does if you happen to get the disease. Now I get they scared you with so called studies. Studies not based on the hard numbers. But when you look at the hard numbers like the Diamond Princess. Italy. England. You realize the idiocy of a few public health officials. The silencing of those who tried to put the truth out there was egregious and criminal if you ask me.
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    If the studies aren't based on "hard numbers," what are they based upon? You think pretty much the entire scientific community, around the globe, got together to conspire to prove the COVID vaccine efficacy?

    And do I need to explain lower risk to you again? Because the "hard numbers", whatever the eff that means, shows lower risk of inflammation from the vaccine, and less severity.
     
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  13. FutureGatorMom

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    Well, since it is an MRNA vaccine it makes sense I'd bring it up as having helped us out of a pandemic. . It saved hundreds of thousands of lives. I wouldn't say that was a failure. My doctor told me to bypass it this year but to get the flu shot. The strains have lessened to the point that if you're not compromised, you're ok to not take a booster.
    The WHO (not the band) meets each year to agree on what strains of flu etc are out there, and supplies a report. Since we now withdrew from WHO, we won't be informed of what strains to look out for. Another "win" for us I guess.
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    You need to learn to look at where the data comes from and how it is being interpreted. So many “studies” are are pure garbage. Throw the propaganda from Covid and…
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    LOL!

    You come and try to tell me I brought Covid up when you did and now provide the obvious truth that you are not touching the shot.

    Glad you have finally joined the majority that sees what happened.
     
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  17. AzCatFan

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    Educate me. Show your work. Why are scientific studies bunk? And did the entire scientific community across the globe conspire together to deceive the public?
     
  18. QGator2414

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    You have yet to provide any hard data. I have provided plenty. You just say “study”…
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    Links, please. I've provided plenty. You? Nothing.
     
  20. gatorpa

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    I’m just speaking to how some people perceive things.

    Since I’ve treated and dealt with tens of thousands of people over a span of 37 years I’m confronted with it daily.

    I’m not saying the fears are fully founded, I deal with unfounded fears about medicine nearly every day I work.