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Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, Jan 30, 2020.

  1. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Plenty of stories years ago that it would never be effective. Then so many allies took delivery without those stories out there that I assumed (wrongly) it had been worked out. Not so.

    Parenthetically, there is a larger issue of whether all manned fighters are obsolete, esp compared to swarms of much cheaper unmanned.

    But still this

    F-35’s Gun That Can’t Shoot Straight Adds to Its Roster of Flaws
     
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  2. NavyGator93

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    Pentagon finds flaws in new F-35 amid increasing orders: report

    Read about this earlier in the day. Mission capable rate of just 65%. Now, the F-35 is at a disadvantage with that metric due to it being multi-mission capable, but 65% is a horrible number for a newer aircraft.
    "As of November, the plane had 873 software deficiencies flagged in the review, down from 917 as of September 2018, the news outlet reported."
     
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  3. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

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    This boondoggle is too big to fail. They have already spent too much, so they will continue to throw more good money after bad until they get it close to right. By then it will be an entirely new plane design.
     
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  4. NavyGator93

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    Some truth to this. Also, the development pipeline is sooooo long it is not like they can bring in a replacement anytime soon.
    Boondoggle is spot on. I was never on the procurement side, but this seems painful.
     
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  5. channingcrowderhungry

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    Call me old-fashioned, but if there is one thing I'd say is important in a gun it is an ability to shoot straight.
     
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  6. tampagtr

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    Cmon man, get with the times. Straight is an outdated concept
     
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    I just tried desperately to come up with something clever to say linking straight guns, the anti-gay catholic school thread, and some non-PC school shooting joke. But alas, I couldn't make it happen
     
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  8. NavyGator93

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    Performance issues?
    o_O
     
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  9. tampagtr

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    By the way, I will no longer defer to you or any actual person with military experience on any issues military. Because I've read a lot of books, more than 25 even. Though I've never served, that makes me an expert over all of you now.;)
     
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  11. channingcrowderhungry

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    He knows more than the generals, so I believe him
     
  12. Trickster

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    $428 BILLION and counting. This is unconscionable. This is where the swamp is, but it is an ecosystem of its own and can no longer be drained.
     
  13. LimeyGator

    LimeyGator Official Brexit Reporter! Premium Member

    Please tell me he said that tongue in cheek? Or it's been twisted for effect?
     
  14. tampagtr

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    Afraid not. He’s said multiple times that he thinks stealth aircraft are literally invisible