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Discussion in 'Hallgator's Nuttin but Net' started by tampajack1, Jul 26, 2022.

  1. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    I didn’t hear anything from anyone, but I just figured that since we have 5 other guys who can play the 3, if CC and JJ were not on the floor, Fudge could be the next man up at the 5.
     
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  2. rserina

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    Sounds like they would play Felder. He is shorter than Fudge, but much stronger, has long arms, can rebound and block shots, and has played stints at the five at both BC and Florida. Not ideal, but passable for a few minutes in a pinch or against small lineups.​
     
  3. tampajack1

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    Could be. Felder can also play the 3.
     
  4. GatorPlanet

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    Agreed. We can play strong guys that are 6'-7" at center against a majority of teams. Probably not as well against teams with 6'-11" and 7' centers.
    This roster provides lots of options.
     
  5. wci347

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    And if Jones can find his shot early in the season and be consistent with it, this team will surprise a lot of other teams.
     
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  6. g8wayg8r

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    This is the best team any new Gator coach has had to work with in the past 50 years in their first year. No off court troubles, medical problems or a roster with a paucity of talent. As new coaches go, this season should be a cakewalk to manage.
     
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  7. rserina

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    Has he? I just don’t ever remember seeing it.
     
  8. tegator80

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    I wonder what the AA did with Mike's sign he had outside the gym. You know, where there is a character with his hand out and level, with a sentence saying "You must be below this height in order to play." I think he got it from Munchkinland Artifacts.
     
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  9. gatorific

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    Had : Hill, Chiozza, Robinson, DFS, Allen, Egbunu, Keith Stone, Justin Leon

    Not a bad core - Hayes too

    3 NBA players ( would have been 4 if Egbunu didn’t get hurt the next year)

    2 5 star recruits
    Allen was around 60
    Chiozza 42
     
  10. wdcurtis4

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    Lofton will be the clear number 1.

    "Kyle Lofton may be the best point guard in the country this year." Todd Golden July 2022

    Is he exaggerating slightly, probably.

    That being said, the guy has already racked up almost 4500 minutes of D1 Basketball. He has seen it all.

    That's nearly 3000 more minutes than Collin Castleton, another 5th year senior has even played.
     
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  11. GatorPlanet

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    Four NBA guys anyway. Kevarrius Hayes is currently playing for the Denver Nuggets in the summer league.
     
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  12. GatorPlanet

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    I've watched a good number of clips of Lofton. He doesn't appear explosive, but looks like he does everything well. Very smooth with the ball in his hands, excellent court vision. Makes a lot of assists and most of them are via seeing and understanding the entire floor. We're going to be very happy with him. He was among the top 10 nationally in assists last season.
     
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  13. g8wayg8r

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    In the end yes. But neither Hill or Cheeze could hit a free throw or a shot on a consistant basis. Robinson and DFS were a work in progress and took a bit longer to come around like Mann. Perhaps it was good coaching ultimately but this years team is in far better shape.
     
  14. rserina

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    His defense will be the difference. Big, physical, competitive, and experienced. Best guy we have had defensively at that spot at least since Hill as a senior, but maybe back to Wilbekin. He is just not a very good shooter, so I don’t expect much there, though limited minutes may help a bit with his legs. Seems to be a very good pick and roll threat who can pass and score in the lane. Also appears to be a good cutter, which should help in the Princeton stuff. All of that means he can function in our sets with any combination of post players, so his poor 3 pt shooting will only be an issue when playing alongside non-shooting wings, but Lane is really the only one who raises concerns there.
     
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  15. tampajack1

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    Chiozza, if I recall, was runner-up for SEC Defensive POY as a senior. I could be wrong.
     
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    Upon closer inspection of his career stats, you are correct, his 3-point shooting has never been good. 28% last year, 33% in his best year (34% to 36% is average, nationally...so 33% is not terrible). Overall, his stats across all aspects have been remarkably consistent over 4 seasons. One thing I really like is that he's been over 80% from the free-throw line every season, 82% last season. A big, tough guard can get in the lane and get fouled and rack up points that way, like Scottie Wilbekin.
    The 3-point percentage is not a big concern if you aren't a shoot-happy guy, and Kyle is a pass-first, team-first kind of guy.
     
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    Not bad for a guy that was coached mostly by Mike White.
     
  18. tampajack1

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    Mis-coached badly.
     
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    And still made the NBA and did really well in SEC play.

    I know this does not play into your Glover theme.
     
  20. tampajack1

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    He played 20 mpg in his junior year when he was the best player on the team, IMO. About 10 of those minutes per game were at the 2. In his senior year, he was forced into playing the coach’s slow down and milk the ball game which was the opposite of what Cheese excels at. You know enough about basketball to know that wasn’t ideal for Cheese or the team.
     
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