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Durham reveals Clinton lawyer lied to the FBI (Update: He was acquitted.)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatormonk, Apr 5, 2022.

  1. CaptUSMCNole

    CaptUSMCNole Premium Member

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    No, go complain about it on threads that discuss those topics, not on this one. This thread is for people that are actually interested in discuss the Durham Investigation and there are other threads to discuss why you think Republicans are evil.
     
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  2. jjgator55

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    Okay I suppose reading in context is a problem so let me try to clear it up for you. What I was saying is that considering what republicans are doing the Durham thingy seems to be small potatoes.
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    Don't worry, fellas, process crimes aren't real crimes. Just ask our Nole friend.
     
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  4. CaptUSMCNole

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    Instead of just assuming that anyone who has a opinion that does not square with yours is acting in bad faith, why not ask other posters that disagree why it is not "small potatoes"?
     
  5. Trickster

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    We can agree to disagree whether it was a nothing burger..... well, nothing more than a Big Mac.
     
  6. luvtruthg8r

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    Yes, there was insufficient evidence to prove a criminal conspiracy thanks to the lies and obstruction of justice. Here's why people lie and obstruct justice: To hide the truth about crimes that were committed. They don't do it just for the hell of it. And that's why lying and obstruction of justice are serious crimes that strike at the heart of how investigators charge for and prosecute crimes.
     
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  7. duchen

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    Almost everything that is asked is material. Otherwise, why ask? If it factors into a decision it is material even if the questioner would have made the same decision no matter the answer of it is a factor in the decision. Materiality is a very low bar. It is Even lower than relevance. I have read a lot about this; folks saying that Baker will not say it mattered. That is nonsense. Does anyone think that whether Sussman was working for the campaign didn’t matter at all? Even if it mattered a tiny bit?
     
  8. jjgator55

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    I didn’t ask anyone too agree with me, not did I say it was small potatoes, but by comparison it seemed to be.
     
  9. duchen

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    This is all about the Page warrant. All of these Russians who were falling out of buildings broadly suggests that in addition to the assistance to the Trump campaign, the other part of the OP (and maybe the real motive) was to out Steele’s sources. Which seemingly worked. The Russians hated Steele after FIFA and they neutered him. Some of the dossier was accurate, other parts were tied to facts but were wrong. Like Page visit to Russia. Feed disinformation to the source and you can identify the source. Which is why this is more serious than some believe. Steele was very unprofessional in releasing the dossier. The FBI was right to sit on it.
     
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  10. Gatorrick22

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  11. duchen

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    You should read the report put out by the majority GOP Senate Committee, Rick.
     
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  12. duchen

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  13. CaptUSMCNole

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    I think you mean Page, not Papadapolous.

    I doubt the Russians cared enough about Igor Danchecko to think about burning him as an end. Steele had already identified him to the FBI as one of his sources and he was interviewed by them in early 2017. More than likely the Russians viewed him as a low level asset that they could feed disinformation through and if he got burned, so what? He was just a means.
     
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  14. duchen

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    Yes. Sorry. I will correct my post. After a 7 hour depo, focus wanes
     
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  15. CaptUSMCNole

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    No worries. It happens. Be thankful we are talking about all the different Ukrainians oligarchs.
     
  16. CaptUSMCNole

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    By comparison, it is not.
     
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  17. jjgator55

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    Look I understand you’re a nole in all, but that’s not an acceptable excuse to force me to explain things using a pop up book.
     
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  18. CaptUSMCNole

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    I’m also a double UF grad and have spent 20 years in the military and most of that in the IC. Weapon is if the IC against your political opponents to win a POTUS race is a very, very big deal.

    If Wray and Barr had signed off on a FISA warrant against Hunter Biden based off what was found on his laptop and then the Trump campaign leaked it to the press in October of ‘20, would you think that is a big deal?
     
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    He should have banned long ago. He's just a goalposts moving grad from the SOW here to breathlessly discuss Dem parking tickets and dispel GOP felonies. It's a tired act.
     
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  20. Gatorrick22

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    The latest... This is getting real interesting.

     
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