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DeSantis wants to allow bystanders to shoot and kill looters and rioters

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

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    It is legal to use lethal force to protect property in Texas. We don't here about daily killings coming out of that state.

    As I mentioned before a business owner/property owner should have the right to protect their property with lethal force. But only the owner and immediate family(not uncle Bob).
    Looters/criminals should not have more protections than the owners of the property.
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    Why? Someone steals your phone you should be able to shoot them in the back as they run away? Now if they pulled a gun on you, all bets are off. But blasting an unarmed pick pocket for lifting your wallet with $20 in it is actual wild west stuff.
     
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  3. WC53

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    Protecting property and protecting yourself are separate issues.
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    Florida already counts Burglary of a Dwelling as a Forcible Felony, meaning the law assumes that they are breaking in to commit a crime against you. This is the castle doctrine

    Chapter 776 Section 013 - 2018 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate

    So they are looking to add to the list of forcible felonies which allows different levels of force.
     
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  4. 96Gatorcise

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    I see business/ property as a business and the property within it. If I'm in my store and someone smashes the window and steps in armed or not. I should legally be allowed to protect my property upto using lethal force.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    Why should you or anyone be able to kill over property if your life or another isn't in danger?
     
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  6. WC53

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    If they step in armed, it’s a robbery, you are good.

    Has Florida had any cases that triggered this or just another sponsored bill.
     
  7. wgbgator

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    No, there was barely any looting or violence in the state over the summer either. Its a solution in search of a problem.
     
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  8. rivergator

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    Apparently killing people is a high priority these days, and clearly this minister has the spirit flowing through him ...

    Rick Wiles Warns Left-Wing Activists to Flee Florida Because ‘We’re Coming After You’ | Right Wing Watch
     
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  9. gator10010

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    She's in prison.

    "U.S. District Judge Timothy Corrigan sentenced ex-U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown on Monday to five years in federal prison for fraud and tax crimes that include raising about $800,000 for a sham charity, a remarkable defrocking of the once-powerful and garrulous Jacksonville Democrat who inspired devotion and vitriol in equal parts throughout her decades in public office."

    Former U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown sentenced to five years in prison
     
  10. gtr2x

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    Read about this deSantis plan awhile back. Sounds like stand your ground on steroids. I can easily see a bystander getting shot if this is implemented.
     
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  12. flgator2

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    Yes you should be able to shoot that thief, If someone tried to steal my wallet they would get shot since I carry. I wouldn't want to kill anybody ever but if there that brazen to steal your wallet I think they wouldn't think twice about hurting either
     
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  13. mutz87

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    You're kidding, right? You're basically suggesting that the most common non-violent crime should be able to be punishable by death.

    It's nonsensical in any broad sense and only gets grayish when incident is a robbery (and even then) or violent rioting where lives might be in danger. Other than that, what you are suggesting is a recipe for a staggering amount of unnecessary violence and death. Over stuff. This doesn't even get into the demographics of people who steal or the situational factors that would make such an idea absurd in most cases.
     
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  14. nolancarey

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    Did I miss something or did you write a new post just to agree with your previous post?
     
  15. defensewinschampionships

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    Agree. I will defend myself, but it is necessary to match force with force. I train Jiu Jitsu. I carry pepper spray. I also carry a Glock 19. I am effective with all three. Which weapon I use depends on the situation.
     
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  16. mutz87

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    Makes sense. I've never felt any intense desire or need to carry a gun. I don't even carry pepper spray--though I do carry a baton and sometimes bear spray if I'm out hiking. I live on the edge of a wildlife preserve/state park and bears in my hood are common.

    But if you're over 40, don't live or work in a high risk area, your potential for violent victimization by strangers is pretty low.
     
  17. kygator

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    Sounds like something a drunk person would do.
     
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    You got that right buddy!
     
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  19. flgator2

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    I'm not kidding at all. If a person is that brazen to tried to rob me in public then there's no telling what else they would do. What's absolutely amazing to me why in the hell are you and others trying to defend someone who is robbing you? You are also assuming they mean you no harm, that's just plain ignorant thinking on your part. Well let's just pray I'm never put in that spot and we never have to find out
     
  20. flgator2

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    Lol I must have thought I was responding to another post
     
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