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DeSantis doesn't want the FBI looking into threats aimed at Florida educators

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by philnotfil, Oct 6, 2021.

  1. philnotfil

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    His actions over the last year only make sense when you look at them in the context of a presidential campaign.

    https://www.cltampa.com/news-views/...oking-into-threats-aimed-at-florida-educators

     
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  2. wgbgator

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    Look, if anyone is going to harass and intimidate teachers its DeSantis and the Florida GOP.
     
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  3. Swamplizard

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    This doesn't look like harassment....

    Today, Governor Ron DeSantis was joined by teachers, school principals, and superintendents in Baker County, Sarasota County and Okaloosa County to announce a total of $765 million in funding to support Florida’s teachers. These investments include $550 million to continue elevating minimum teacher salaries, as well as $215 million to provide all of Florida’s eligible public school principals and teachers with $1,000 disaster relief payments.

    Governor Ron DeSantis Announces More Than $765 Million in Record Funding for Teachers
     
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  4. wgbgator

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    This does though:

    Florida Recording and Ideological Survey Bill Is Now Law | Inside Higher Ed.

     
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  5. BLING

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    LOL, that’s called pr.

    Florida ranks 49th in teacher pay. 49th(!!!).

    This spin is like McDonalds marketing the McRib as 1st class barbecue.
     
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  6. swampbabe

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    That money came from the feds and some of those checks bounced LOL. In addition, there's money for schools that Florida won't even apply for, we're the ONLY state not to do so.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article254757452.html
     
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  7. philnotfil

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    Bragging about providing $765 million for education while also turning down an additional $2.3 billion in funding for education. So much winning.
     
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  8. slightlyskeptic

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    Anyone threatening physical harm to someone else should be dealt with legally. But I’d need to see the definitions and examples being used here. Expressing disgust and threatening to vote someone out of office is not a threat nor is it intimidation.
     
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  9. philnotfil

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    What about when they follow school board members to their homes?
     
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  10. slightlyskeptic

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    I have been consistent with saying that kind of stuff is out of bounds (though it isn’t illegal) specially since it’s been the MO of the left much more than the right. You don’t follow them into bathrooms either or shout at them while they’re eating or accost them when they go to the movies as some Democratic congressmen and women have encouraged their constituents to do to people they disagree with politically.
     
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  11. carpeveritas

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    I agree we need examples of threats and violence. They would be all over the news and social media if that were indeed the case. Yet we don't see any of that happening. What we do see is parents speaking up at meetings and voicing their concerns. To me the biggest threat is that teachers and school board members will lose their jobs.

    Mr McAuliffe may think different about parent involvement and we will see in November if Virginians agree with his view.

    Terry McAuliffe: "I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."
     
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    The whole critical race theory and wearing masks really triggers trumpkins.
     
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  13. BLING

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    That’s the classic example of the shallow soundbite. It plays well to those who don’t think for themselves. Which in this case i assume is going to be all the anti “critical race theory” rubes manipulated into frothing at the mouth at school board meetings because they don’t want their kids being told there’s no Santa Clause.

    Every parent has the ability to be fully “in charge” of their child's education. It’s called home schooling.

    Beyond that, if you send your kids to public or private school you no longer are “in charge” of your child’s education - you are leaving it to the institution. You do still have a voice, you get a vote for school board which is your input into community standards of public education. At a private school you have more choice over the school, but again, your vote then is basically as a consumer (plus perhaps a vote for board of governors of the school).
     
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  14. swampbabe

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    You do realize that all of those folks screaming at school board meetings are not "concerned parents", right? These are orchestrated acts by right wing agitators. Earlier upthread there was an example of board members being threatened.

    To your point about parents telling schools how and what to teach, what if there are 30 different viewpoints about the teaching of history? Who decides? Those that are educated in those curriculum areas or a wingnut screaming about "muh freedumbs"
     
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  15. slightlyskeptic

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    I missed the examples of threats. What were they?
     
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    Does the FBI need to be involved?
    I would think that local LEO can handle that.

    Unless there is some organizer group plotting this out perhaps.
     
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  17. domgator

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    Where did DeSantis say he did not want the FBI to look into threats of violence? He said they want to protect free speech and not have the FBI squelch dissent through intimidation. That's a lot different than what you posted in the thread title.
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    It's pandering. He has no power to do anything. He'll pretend to be a tough guy because that plays well with the base. It's theatrics.

    Parents shouldn't be deciding what schools teach, just like patients shouldn't be deciding how a doctor conducts surgery. If a parent wants complete control over their child's education, homeschool them.
     
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  19. BLING

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    For one he accused Merrick Garland of “weaponizing the DOJ”, and (laughably) he’s not going to allow the FBI to intimidate his base!

    This is political grandstanding plain and simple. Unless you actually think FBI agents are going to show up at someone’s house without good cause…
     
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  20. carpeveritas

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    Shallow? I suppose you'll try to spin the meaning of Mr McAuliffe's words.

    When leaving the child's education to the institution the parent has every right to demand of the institution the education their child will receive. As for the institution being in charge it is we the people that created the institution and we the people that can bring it down. Not a hard concept to imagine.

    Given the number of single parents and economical where with all home schooling may not be an option for a vast majority of the population.

    Private school is a choice for some especially those that can afford it. Now some may well want their children out from under foot and send them to academies as well but I highly doubt these people are not involved in the education they expect their children to receive.
     
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