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David Hogg spills the beans on who actually ran the WH

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, May 28, 2025 at 9:46 PM.

  1. tilly

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    It does prove he has more access than a TH poster...which of course was the point Oklahoma accurately made.
     
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  2. tilly

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    No it isn't. What is being discussed is how THAT president likely wasnt delegating anything, but was actually just an animated figurehead being led instead of leading.

    And, no...that is not in anyway a defense of what is currently happening.
     
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  3. ridgetop

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    You think th accusations being made that there was a shadow group manipulating the president and making decisions for him is referring simply to people he delegated some responsibilities too? Ok.
    just to be sure
    Do wish those unelected, unknown individuals were still running the country from behind the veil?
     
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  4. WC53

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    Chiefs of staff had power and ran things. What!

    Did no one watch the West Wing ;)
     
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    Lol... right on time! :D:D:D

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  6. mikemcd810

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    Hogg probably wanted to discuss all his "brilliant" ideas directly with Biden and Biden told his staff to keep that annoying kid away from him. That's how it works when someone who thinks they're more important than they really are wants to discuss everything directly with the person at the top - the people below that person say "You don't need to talk to the President about that - I'm in charge of that."

    I'm sure most of us have dealt with that in our professional lives - shielding our boss or sending out an assistant manager to deal with a minor nuisance.
     
  7. antny1

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    Dont care about Hogg or put much value into what he says but you have to be pretty willfully ignorant to believe Biden was running much of his administration. I also think this was the case for Bush II though. I can't see this happening with Bush senior, Clinton or Obama. Trump is clearly pulling the strings himself for better or worse..
     
  8. citygator

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    David Hogg had as much of a role in the Biden admin as I did and I dont even have to post my resume to prove it. All I need to do is post his. Oklahoma hasnt been particularly accurate in at least two years.

    David Hogg - Wikipedia
     
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    For a second and possibly a third term in a row a cognitively diminished person holds the office of the presidency. A major difference is that under Biden decisions were apparently being made by competent subordinates who used the authority of the presidency. In the case of Trump 2.0 the cognitively diminished malignant narcissist who currently holds the office has surrounded himself with largely incompetent yes men (and women) who are afraid to question him.
     
  10. ridgetop

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    What subordinates were making decisions under Biden?
     
  11. CaptUSMCNole

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    Hogg is just repeating what was covered in Tapper/Thompson's book and in Allen/Parnes' book. Anthony Bernal's role in the Biden White House is well covered and the general consensus is that he is a jerk and that is being very generous to him.
     
  12. CaptUSMCNole

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    Please post the day and time of your Oval Office visit so we can check it against the White House visitor logs.

    The reality is that the Biden WH spent a lot of time and effort cultivating online political Democratic influencers and often invited them to the White House for meeting and events. I have no idea how much Biden's staff listened to them but there is no doubt Hogg would have been in a position to meet and deal with Jill Biden's Chief of Staff.
     
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  13. g8orbill

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    I think Biden may have been there but it was imnsho Jill who was calling the shots
     
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  16. vegasfox

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    I mentioned the gay Mexican who was accused of sexual abuse many weeks ago (Anthony Bernal). Ron Klain was chief of staff for Biden and involved in the Solymdra scandal if memory serves. Other names mentioned by Jake Tapper and others; Donilon, Steve Ricchetti, Bruce Reed and sometimes Anita Dunn, and Annie Tomasini.

    Mostly these were boring Democrat lifers/insiders chosen for their loyalty. Biden is pretty boring too and mostly thought of as a moderate Democrat.

    Obama's first 4 years were fairly modetate compared to his second term. It was predicted that the Obama administration would go hard left/woke his last 4 years and that's what happened.

    Why did the Biden team of relative moderates go nuts on DEI, immigration, George Floyd/crime and transgenderism? Did they or their you get staffers get caught up in the woke zeitgeist? Or, like liberal Too Hot posters, did they simply not know very much about the important issues? They think of themselves as the good people. But it's the bad people who are the truth tellers, people who don't believe in lies, ignorance or wishful thinking.

    How many liberals (before I started posting here) knew the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson caused a big increase in black homicides and traffic fatalities? Democrats went nuts on George Floyd, cops retreated to donut shops and this predictably resulted in massive numbers of blacks dying in the 3 years after Floyd died (25-30K exyra draths).

    Democrats did great harm by bringing in millions of uneducated immigrants to replace middle class whites. Now they despair that Hispanics shifted hard towards Trump.

    How many Democrats ever heard of autogynephilia, a sexual fetish that some men develop? A large percentage of transgenders have this fetish but are too embarrassed to admit it. So Bruce Jenner, who has 6 kids with 3 women, said he always felt like a little girl inside (or something). Many of the male to female autogynophilics are hyper-masculine jerks who enjoy dominating and humiliating women. Democrats have been slow to catch on.

    How many "good people" know about genetic racial differences that result in differences in average crime rates and IQ? Not the Democrats, who shamefully put the blame for bad outcomes on whites. This unifies the Democrat's diverse base but has turned off the white middle class.

    it will be interesting to see how the Democrats course-correct going forward.
     
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  17. citygator

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    What a joke. Reporters met with Biden a lot more. That dude would have zero idea into the day to day activities of the white house that isnt rumor. How you were handled in a visit... is just that. You guys crack me up. Everything is a coverup conspiracy waiting to be broke open about the secret masters when the real masters like Donald Trump punch you in the face openly.
     
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  18. CaptUSMCNole

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    So no time and date for your Oval Office visit, I take it?

    Again, Hogg was in a position to be able to meet Jill's Chief of Staff and socially know younger White House staffers and hear office gossip. Seeing as all of this info was already reported in Original Sin and Fight, what he is saying is common knowledge at this point. Being able to say Jill Biden's Chief of Staff is a jerk and welds a lot of power in the Biden White House does not require knowledge of day to day activities there.

    Or are you claiming that Anthony Bernal did not have a much larger role in the Biden White House than one would expect of the First Lady's Chief of Staff to have?
     
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  19. Tjgators

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    Biden was never in charge. He was unavailable to the public for 4 years, and prior to that, he was in his basement.
     
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  20. citygator

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    Read the bogus headline of this thread that is ill supported by links but not moderated. Its silly to use David Hogg as the inside administration guy who is breaking the secret of "who ran the white house". You guys keep circling the drain of nonsense while the current administration acts incompetently and illegally.

    I dont care if her chief of staff was a jerk. I do know the headline is a lie. That is what I am debating.