Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by akaGatorhoops, Jul 12, 2019.
this is good stuff!
Duke basketball saint Grayson Allen is victim, ESPN owes two apologies
And then there is this view blaming ESPN and their commentators.
I saw the highlights on NBA TV. No surprise. He's a thug. I was hoping William's would lose his cool and choke him out.
Someone needs to knock his block off. Just put him on his ass.
I'm surprised no one has.
Allen might be a disciple of the Bill Lambeer school of hoops.
Wasnt laimbeer tough all the time? Kinda like what the announcers were referring to?
I read that and at first I thought it was sarcasm.
Neither foul was horrendous. For Dakich to give the hook/thumb ( meaning kick him out) while the referee was talking to he and Ruocco about the first foul is completely unprofessional.
Grant Williams is not someone he should tangle with. He's lucky Williams plays on an even keel.
Laimbeer is the reason I quit watching the NBA years ago. He singlehandedly changed the game to legal mugging.
I think, at times, Allen is borderline dirty, but Dakich is such a Big Ten homer.
If you watch these plays you'll see Allen not entirely guilty. Williams hooked Allen's arm when setting his screen, Allen gets his arm out of the hook. The follow-through Allen does to remove Grant's hook makes it look ten times dirtier than it actually is.
Then Williams sets a hard screen on him to get him back. Five seconds later Allen fouls him hard because he's not about to give him an easy layup after that.
I think the announcer was really unprofessional about the whole thing, pretty bushleague. Allen's a competitor, not Bill Lambier. Until I see him trying to injure someone, he's not dirty player to me.
I agree that going nuts on Allen for the first foul was unprofessional and premature. They got tangled up and shoved out. Move on.
However, the second foul was blatant BS - basically threw a hammer blow to the guy's head. That is clearly a blow that can cause "injury." Plus, Allen has a history of tripping people which is both cheap and very dangerous (broken wrists are easy there). This is not a situation of the announcer OR Allen being wrong. The announcer was premature and unprofessional AND Allen is a dirty, cheap player.
All of this makes me want to watch the youtube video "This is why Duke sucks"... again.
If he were throwing his arm down on Williams head, I'd agree that'd be BS. I didn't see the arm hitting Williams in the head. But any time you punch down it's going to look ten times worse. He should've just made a better attempt to make the play.
Agree to disagree on his tripping incidents, I didn't see much danger in it. Uncalled for, yes. Dangerous, that's a stretch. Making hard contact with a guy high in the air is more dirty to me, yet it's called a clean basketball play the majority of the time. My wrist hurts 15 years later thanks to a kid who didn't want to give up a dunk.
I think the closed fist on the second foul is what did him in.
Not sure how you can defend him at this point in time. His body of work, up to this point, speaks for itself.
Not defending him, he's got a childish temper. But I didn't see much to warrant him getting tossed between those two incidents and the announcer ripped into him unnecessarily.
Coach K is probably embarrassed to have had him in their program. GA is the exact opposite of good sportsmanship. Sore loser to boot.
We recruited Allen pretty hard, didn't we?