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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by 96Gatorcise, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

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    Exclusive: Pompeo blocks inclusion of Saudis on U.S. child soldiers list - sources - Reuters

    Umm why are they hiring foreign in the first place?

     
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  2. defensewinschampionships

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    Ugh, let’s sever our ties with the Saudis
     
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  3. danmann65

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  4. finorman

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    It’s a strange story considering that you could walk through any random “gun free zone” high school in this country and find a JROTC program with non functioning weapons, not to mention every basic training class will have 17 year olds attending.
     
  5. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    not sure your point. What does a high school class with non-functioning weapons have to do with underage soldiers fighting in real wars?
     
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  6. intimigator1

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    If you dont see the difference ....oh well.
     
  7. BLING

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    A poster comparing JROTC to sending recruited foreign 14 year old soldiers into a civil war to fight as mercenary soldiers. Just when I thought too hot crazy couldn't get any crazier.
     
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  8. 108

    108 Premium Member

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    the lengths that folks will go to deflect is breathtaking..

    This extremely cozy relationship with this particular administration, is likely built more on future earnings for Trump org. We'll see it all play out in the upcoming years, and his followers will deflect that too..
     
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  9. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    The bottom line is that the US does maintain a list of countries that it considers to be using children and teens as soldiers. For some reason, Pompeo refused to put Saudi Arabia on it, despite evidence that it should be there.


     
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  10. homer

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    Against child soldiers and labor.

    However, if I was a kid from Sudan where food can be scarce, I’d probably lie about my age and join. Think about how much 10K is to a Sudanese kid.

    They are also still fighting an on and off civil war. Many of the fighters are kids.

    So if I’m a kid fighting in Sudan for basically nothing, been trained or have gained fighting knowledge through experience, I’m going to do it for profit for the Saudis.

    This is a problem in numerous countries. Many of them have a different opinion on what age a person can work or soldier.
     
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  11. GatorNavy

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    Omitting countries that use child soldiers from the child soldier list has been going on since the list began. This is nothing new.
     
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  12. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    do you have examples of the U.S. omitting countries after staff experts recommended putting it on the list?
     
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  13. staticgator

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    Ugh, let's bone saw our ties with the Saudis
     
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  14. BLING

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    Good for you! This is an incredibly low standard that I didn't think was debatable in the United States of America, but you've passed, congratulations.

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    Wait a minute. This is defending child soldiering! Maybe you are not so against it? You are basically calling it an "opportunity" for them. Sick. Most of these kids are abducted illegally, some as early as the age of 10. So because they are abducted and instead of fighting in their own country - often the Sudan, they are sent to be mercenaries in Yemen that somehow makes it ok? Wut?

    Those kids aren't the ones making profit either. They've been brainwashed to be martyrs. If we back this, the U.S. might as well also be labeled a state sponsor of terror and child soldiering.
     
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  15. homer

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    Not defending or backing, but it is an opportunity to some of them.

    Would you rather fight for free while starving for make 10K and most likely eat too?

    As to abducted kids, I never said that’s ok. I’m talking about volunteers only.

    Why do you lefties find the need to twist comments and put words into people’s mouths?
     
  16. BLING

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    Yes. Yes you are defending it and backing it, and no I'm not twisting words. Your own post was twisted, you spent 5 words proclaiming yourself against child soldiering, then spent the remainder of your post justifying the Saudi's practice. You even double down calling it an "opportunity" for these children to eat.

    Maybe you should either think through what you are saying, or just delete the first part that you are against child soldiering. Since that was obviously not accurate.
     
  17. obgator

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    Families escaping violence and poverty from Central America - horrible people.

    Child soldiers recruited for a civil war - an opportunity to eat.
     
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  18. BLING

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    Hey man, does this AK come with a 401K?
     
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  19. homer

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    Not defending it or backing it.

    I explained why a Sudanese kid would join the Saudi military vs staying in their country doing the same task. It is an opportunity vs the other choice.

    Reading comprehension is your friend.
     
  20. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    The issue is with Saudi Arabia hiring them, not the poor Sudanese kids willing to go.
     
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