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Country singer's PR firm drops him after wife's comments on trans

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Sep 10, 2022.

  1. flgator2

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  2. flgator2

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    You mean honest opinion
     
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  3. g8trjax

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    Christian bigots up in arms over trans bigots...:emoji_joy:
     
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  4. fda92045

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    That is fair. Her comments are a misunderstanding and an oversimplification of gender identity issues. She is acting like because she was a tomboy she went through the same process that trans or gender fluid people go through -- it ain't the same. Also like no parents are rushing kids to transition, or get reassignment surgery -- so her need to say that is just unnecessary and comes off as "thank god I'm not trans, it would suck to be you". They are only worsened with JA's response.

    Well what values are we talking about here? I'd argue if you're truly a christian, not representing someone because of identifying factors they have no control over would mean you're not really a christian. Now if you don't want to represent someone because they are a murderer, or they hold inflammatory, hateful views (like the aldeans), then I have no issue with them taking a stand of hem.

    This has nothing to do with bad decisions dude. These parents are clearly not providing their child with resources to help them cope and figure out their struggles.

    The parents aren't being supportive here, nor does this sound like "letting the kid do what they want". They clearly aren't letting the child use professional resources to help them sort through what they are going through because they are against transgenderism -- which is likely why the school had to advocate. As a parent, unless you deal with these issues as a professional in that space, you don't have the answers - you're there to support and help them grow into a self sufficient adult -- making sure they have the right resources in this space (not you, unless you're a professional) is part of being a parent.
     
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  5. ridgetop

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    Well what values are we talking about here? I'd argue if you're truly a christian, not representing someone because of identifying factors they have no control over would mean you're not really a christian. Now if you don't want to represent someone because they are a murderer, or they hold inflammatory, hateful views (like the aldeans), then I have no issue with them taking a stand of hem.

    So either they are not acting like Christian’s OR they have the same views as you and are acting like Christian’s?

    Were you ok with Hobby Lobby fighting the contraceptive/birth control in Obamacare? They took a stand based on their beliefs.
     
  6. partdopy

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    TLDR; if your beliefs and values differ from this guy's you're an unsupportive POS parent and the state should let your kid do whatever, provided it's a hardcore liberal belief.

    What if the kid wanted to be a radical anti abortion extremist, should the parents encourage and foster his behavior provided he doesn't directly do anything illegal? Maybe he wants to cut of his leg because he suffers from the mental illness that causes people to want to do that? Sorry bud but the vast majority of the world still sees what you advocate for what it is - mental illness and peer pressure.
     
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  7. fda92045

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    That isn't what I said, at all. What I said was: if you're a parent and your child is struggling with something medically related, let them seek out professional help and use it -- and be supportive with how they are feeling/what they are going through. That isn't peer pressure lol. If you aren't letting them use the resources then you're being a bad parent.

    Religions are a personal journey, and letting others live as they want while treating them with respect. You know Jesus was hanging with people who had vices and lived lives he didn't "approve" of -- he didn't guilt them or make them feel like shit for it. A lot of Christians do this, and this is why they get a bad rap.

    No, I'm not ok with a company denying medical care coverage to its employees. You don't believe in contraception? Don't use it.
     
  8. citygator

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    50% of Christians are divorcing, 40% are watching porn 35% are having an affair, 2% are gay and 0.3% are transgendered with 0.006% transitioning a year.

    Let’s continue to focus on the real Christian issues: 0.006%.


    “Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye?”
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  9. Trickster

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    Perfectly said. The underlying hatefulness of some who call themselves Christians always surprises me.
     
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  10. ridgetop

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    Believe in contaceprives and want to use them.. no biggie. Don’t ask others to buy them for you.
     
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  11. ridgetop

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    So to be clear.. it fine for company to stand up for the values and principles as long as they are the ones YOU believe in.
     
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    Interesting. People have been debating what constitutes "real" country forever, and it makes sense that would cross over to cultural and political issues, particularly in this day and age. I highly recommend the Ken Burns documentary on country music.
     
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    Again, religion is a PERSONAL journey. If you are providing health care you don't get to pick and choose what healthcare treatment OTHER people need/want. That is none of your business.

    Nope. And you know that isn't what I said.
     
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  14. cocodrilo

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    Whatever happened to real country songs, like "Won't Somebody Please Kiss My Sweet Thing"?
     
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  16. mrhansduck

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    The same could be said for having kids - "don't ask others to pay for them." But we all pay one way or another. Personally, I am fine with my tax dollars going to help out other peoples' children. IMO, we are all better off if kids are cared for and have opportunities. But it's not like we live in a world where peoples' procreative decisions don't affect the pocketbooks of others.
     
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    I nominate:

    Well, way down yonder on the Chattahoochee, it gets hotter than a hoochie coochie

    I think those are the sorts of values we can all believe in.
     
  18. cocodrilo

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    Religious songs too, like "Dropkick Me, Jesus, Through the Goalposts of Life."
     
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    The extreme left is mythologized by your preferred media and reports of extreme left behavior are "supported" by little more than anecdata.
     
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    I will take the over for $1000.
     
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