Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

    7,264
    1,565
    3,013
    Apr 3, 2007
    Bottom of a pint glass
    Unless we get hospital overcrowding, which sounds like a major issue in certain places once again, specifically Florida. Hoping for the best.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. dangolegators

    dangolegators GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 26, 2007
    The death rate may continue to drop. But I think the number of daily deaths is likely to rise in July, especially in Florida. If we continue to add 10k new cases per day in FL, just a 1% death rate would give us about 100 deaths per day. Hope I'm wrong, but the case count has risen so much, the cumulative effect of that is bound to catch up with us.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    7,991
    1,747
    3,053
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Unusual story.... seems atypical.

    Nick Cordero, Broadway actor, dies at 41 after battle with Covid-19


    (CNN)Nick Cordero, a Broadway actor who had admirers across the world rallying for his recovery, has died after a battle with Covid-19, according to his wife, Amanda Kloots.

    He was 41.

    According to Kloots, Cordero was initially hospitalized in March at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles.

    She shared on social media that Cordero spent some time on a ventilator, suffered multiple Covid-19 complications and in April had to have his leg amputated.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  4. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    120,328
    161,306
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    Updated stats from World o Meter as of 8 am EDT. I didn't do updates over the weekend so the changes are for 3 days except the testing which I just do on Mondays. 4,633,624 tests were done last week which represents testing over 11% of the population total and about 1 1/2% just last week. The positive case per test dropped from 8.6% to 7.9%. There were 10 states, which included NY and NJ, that had a decrease in active cases. There were 19 states with 1-6 deaths over those 3 days and 5 states with 0 deaths.
    A 7-6-1.JPG
    A 7-6-2.JPG
     
  5. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    120,328
    161,306
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    The death rate per reported case as a percentage continues to drop.

    A 7-6-3.JPG
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. RealGatorFan

    RealGatorFan Premium Member

    14,341
    7,551
    2,893
    Apr 3, 2007
    To this very moment, 30 million have contracted COVID-19 per CDC. That means the death rate is roughly .44%. We could argue that number is a best guess, but it's all we have. For every person saying not all deaths are being counted (not everyone dies in a hospital), there are also those dying and getting labeled with COVID-19 without a test, and the contracted population is a best guess. We really have no idea how many have had COVID19 and may never know. That's not much different in every flu season where we guess at how many have contracted the flu. The only exact numbers we have are the number of positive cases and those that end up hospitalized. That's why in the 2009 pandemic the range of deaths were between 8,000 and 18,000 with a mean of 12,000. We couldn't even get a good number then with a virus that had easy tracking and identification so it shows really how difficult this one is in tracing and tracking numbers. That's why the number of cases is between 3,000,000 and 30,000,000.

    The only good number we can look at is # of hospitalized. We can use that number to compare to past flu outbreaks and predict future spikes. We are also coming up with new treatments like the new one where they transfuse the blood through a machine that oxygenates the blood essentially acting as an artificial lung. Ventilators are short-term solutions not long-term and they have shown to weaken a person because their lungs are in such bad shape, the ventilator is only damaging them further. So why not remove the lungs from the equation and oxygenate them artificially?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

    14,592
    25,736
    3,363
    Aug 6, 2008
    Tampa
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  8. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    12,603
    4,839
    3,208
    Nov 25, 2017
    Younger person. But, he lost the percentages. Tragic. Which is why the lauded “spread through young people is good and what a great job the Trump led GOP is doing” is so wrong. Rolling the dice with lives and health.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  9. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    12,603
    4,839
    3,208
    Nov 25, 2017
    You are comparing known cause of death to an estimate of spread which may or may not be accurate. Btw: how does that .44% figure you concede work out with spread to 70% of the country for “herd immunity?”
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  10. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

    20,619
    4,441
    3,488
    Apr 3, 2007
    Zero deaths in Virginia today for the first time since I think April 5th (other than one day we didn’t report).
    Amazing what happens when masks are required indoors and people follow the rules generally.
    That said, as we open back up I would expect some backsliding...but when you start from zero deaths and a low case count it’s a much more palatable prospect.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Informative Informative x 1
  11. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    13,549
    1,542
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    Harvard just announced online instruction only for the coming school year. They will apparently open campus housing for one class at a time (rumored to be freshmen in the fall and seniors in the spring), but all instruction is online. The elite schools started the dominoes falling in March. Be interesting to see if we have a, likely slower moving, rerun as we approach fall.

     
    • Informative Informative x 4
  12. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    6,591
    724
    2,013
    Apr 3, 2007
    Sounds like a great deal. $50k for zoom classes. Cue Good Will Hunting theme...
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

    29,523
    54,266
    3,503
    Apr 8, 2007
    northern MN
    Just an initial breach in the wall. Soon the floodgates will probably open and most, if not all major colleges will be online.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
  14. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    120,328
    161,306
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    I have to admit I was expecting a bigger jumps in reported deaths than I am seeing so far, only 153 so far today.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    12,603
    4,839
    3,208
    Nov 25, 2017
    All the right wingers painting rosy pictures of a spreading pandemic. While the rest of the advanced countries in the world drive numbers down and reopen. A rosy picture of incompetence. We even had a post today celebrating the great work of Trump and mocking democrats. What a low bar for competence.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  16. NavyGator93

    NavyGator93 GC Legend

    962
    387
    2,663
    Dec 4, 2015
    Georgia
    The people who get into the top schools are probably better suited to learn without having to be in a class.
    In the end, a semester or two online won't matter to the elite schools, they will still have a degree said says Harvard or whatever. As long as they are taking a good major, that will be worth something.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  17. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    13,549
    1,542
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    Monday reports are always low because, for many states, they are Sunday's data. Tuesday tends to be the big jump.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

    6,591
    724
    2,013
    Apr 3, 2007
    70% of kids at Harvard are on financial aid of some kind. That’s a lot of cash to blow on a zoom class. And regardless of what people say, zoom classes aren’t the same as in person. Would think Harvard being so progressive would offer a discount.
     
  19. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    13,549
    1,542
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    Harvard is also a leader in online learning and teaching. They have been doing very high quality online classes in a number of disciplines for years in graduate education. I have known a few people that have taught there over the years. The expectation for their professors in the MBA program, for example, is that you know the name and background of every student (where they have worked, where they want to work, their educational background, etc.) in your class so you know exactly who to call on for complicated questions. That expectation was just as true in their online program as their in-person program. They won't just be using zoom to go over a set of slides in a lecture. They will have professionally produced videos, tons of online tools, and a lot of individual attention.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  20. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    9,781
    754
    348
    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    Not sure where you got those death rates, per the world o meter Germany has about a 4.6% mortality rate and the US is about 4.5%

    How is USA death rate 4x that of Germany?


    Also with all the asymptomatic cases do you think the other countries are testing as many people for antibodies as we are? I don't.
     
    • Like Like x 1