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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    alright, you and i have been, for lack of a better word, bickering on this for awhile.what if we were neighbors, and you got fed up with me, or vice verse, and we decided to teach the other a lesson and turn us in, and do not say that would not happen, over the years i have had neighbors who i did not like, and believe it or not, some did not like me, so it would happen, maybe more than you think, but at least on this forum we are cool to each other.
     
  2. RIP

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    Well that would depend if you actually turned me in for a violation. I would imagine if some petty asshole does this just to fuel personal grudges then it would bog down the situation temporarily. I would also imagine if the police showed up and nothing was going on then the person that called the hotline could get charged with filing a false police report or something similar. I really don't think this is going to be a big enough problem to negate the benefits.
     
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  3. buckeyegator

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    for law enforcement sake, i hope you are right, but i am a skeptic by nature, but i hope i am wrong, although i think we would both agree there are going to be scumbags out there trying to take advantage of the situation, like people who rob stores during a riot or natural disaster.
     
  4. RIP

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    Yep, there is always that guy who robs/steals during times of crisis. Nothing can be done to keep them from doing this when law enforcement is hindered. I think in Florida they will find that quite a few of the citizens are armed and ready to go in their homes (myself included).
     
  5. buckeyegator

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    alright, what is your opinion on the closing of gun shops?
     
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    I don't really have one. If the government deems them essential then they should stay open. I needed some rounds for my .40S&W (and didn't want to go out in public unnecessarily) so I ordered a box from Midwayusa.com . I don't know what the price was before all this went down but they seemed unusually expensive.
     
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  7. g8trjax

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  8. RIP

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    You must live in one hell of a house.
     
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  9. channingcrowderhungry

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    Bottom of a pint glass
    Legitimately chuckled out loud.
     
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  10. CharlestonGator

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    Dude that was most excellent. First smile Ive had today:cool:
     
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  11. OklahomaGator

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    Coronavirus Crisis & Tom Cotton: Senator Who Saw Pandemic Coming | National Review

    Tom Cotton was both the first and the loudest voice in Congress to sound the alarm about the looming pandemic.

    While others slept, Tom Cotton was warning anyone who would listen that the coronavirus was coming for America.

    On January 22, one day before the Chinese government began a quarantine of Wuhan to contain the spread of the virus, the Arkansas senator sent a letter to Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar encouraging the Trump administration to consider banning travel between China and the United States and warning that the Communist regime could be covering up how dangerous the disease really was. That same day, he amplified his warnings on Twitter and in an appearance on the radio program of Fox & Friends host Brian Kilmeade.
     
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  12. G8trGr8t

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    Best thing I have seen today. Small Texas company working out of backyard garages has invented a helmet that seals around head of patient and accepts pressurized oxygen flow directly from wall outlet that can be used in place of ventilators in some of the less severe cases. No intubation required.

    Cost $162 prior to covid, $162 post covid. Ramping up to produce 5k per day. Already in use at one Chicago hospital as they were working on this prior to covid. Also being used in Italy.

    Virgin Galactic CEO called, wanted to know what he could do to help. Owner said he needed more machines but didn't have cash to buy them so they stroked the check and paid his bill. Owner has offered design to anyone that wants to produce them with no royalty required. We need more people like this guy.

    Mods...I know I am breaking 4 paragraph rule but it seems appropriate to share such positive news.

    Texas 'mom and pop' business flooded with orders for helmet ventilators

    One month ago, Chris Austin was running a little-known mom-and-pop business in Texas that fielded a few dozen orders a week for his helmet-style ventilation devices. He had five employees and a handful of volunteers from the family's church who would pitch in at the workshop behind their home in the small town of Waxahachie. Then the coronavirus epidemic hit.

    Austin's company, Sea-Long Medical Systems Inc., is getting thousands of orders every day, from America's top hospitals to countries as far flung as the United Arab Emirates. Researchers say the device, which costs less than $200, could help hospitals free up ventilators for only the most critically ill coronavirus patients.

    The Sea-Long device doesn't look the part of a lifesaving medical device. It resembles a crude spacesuit helmet, with a transparent hood sealed at the neck and two tubes extending from its base. The helmet was originally designed to supply oxygen to patients receiving treatment in hyperbaric chambers.

    But doctors in Italy, where a version of the helmet has long been used to treat people experiencing breathing problems, found it to be effective in helping some COVID-19 patients. Dr. Bhakti Patel, who has been studying the devices for six years, said they hold promise as an early intervention that could spare respiratory patients the need to be put on the more traditional — and costly and invasive — ventilators.

    "I would love for there to be a silver bullet for this pandemic," said Patel, a pulmonologist at the University of Chicago. "My best hope is that the way it changes the game is that maybe it shaves off the number of patients who need a ventilator — even if it's 1 out of 3 or 1 out of 5."

    Patel led a first-of-its-kind study in 2016 that tested the Sea-Long helmet against an oxygen mask for a group of 83 intensive care patients suffering from acute respiratory distress. The researchers found that the helmet led to superior outcomes: Patients using them required ventilation 18.2 percent of the time, compared to 61.5 percent for the masks, and had a better 90-day survival rate, according to the study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    What the hell? We're allowing foreign countries to buy up our desperately needed PPE supplies? This is why we have the Defense Production Act.
     
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  14. demosthenes

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    Had some absolute morons at Vedauwoo shooting guns in my direction when I was camped there. There were literally sections of branches falling down on us from bullets clipping them. I got in my SUV and charged up the hill. I would have drove my SUV through their camp but a ranger just happened to drive by so I flagged her down. The morons shooting blindly were gone from the park in less than an hour.
     
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  15. AndyGator

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    Bantering Bros. Forever linked in life. Judging by RIPs avatar, though, I think he'll win in the end ;)
     
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  16. GCNumber7

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    Almost 900 deaths today. It’s gonna get very ugly for the next few days.
     
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  17. mutz87

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    Frightening little doubt to that likelihood.
     
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  18. GatorNorth

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    Yesterday: somber potus-“100,000 people could die”

    Today: revers to self-aggrandizing potus-“did you know I’m number one on Facebook? I just found out”

    Time to move this clown down to Mar A Lago in November.
     
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  19. antny1

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    Just ran to the store for medicine. Packed and lines were packed too.

    I'm curious if the isolation strategy would have been adhered to more if they tried to focus on high risk populations instead of shutting everything down. I just wonder if people are tone deaf because of the novelty of the scope of the pandemic/shutdown. People don't believe the severity because of anecdotal evidence I.e. I don't know anyone who has it, I'm younger blah blah blah. Ive mentioned it before but I will always wonder what would have happened if we changed our approach from the beginning. Of course that would still take personal responsibility and acknowledgement that this is more than just the flu so that those not as high risk would still keep themselves distant from their elderly or sick as well....
     
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  20. GatorGuyDallas

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    20 year olds catch it and get sick
    40 year olds catch it and get sick
    60 year olds catch it and get sick

    All of them pass it to others and get others sick.

    There isn't a low risk group. There are just groups more prone to have severe consequences.
     
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