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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gatorpa

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    Typically pregnant women aren’t allowed in clinical trials like this, I’d be curious to see exactly how many pregnant women were enrolled either on purpose or by accident.
    I would bet the n is very small, unless there was a specific study looking for pregnant women to enroll in which case I would think it would rather hard to find willing subjects.
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    From the article on Israel. The numbers in context.
     
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    This is an interesting Tweet from Dr, Robert Malone. And he is correct too.

    I wonder if Governor DeSantis knows about this monkey farm?

     
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    Also lacks context. No hospitalizations from the unvaxxed, but 6 deaths. What was total population? Total vaccinated percentage? Age of the vaxxed and unvaxxed? As a great philosopher once stated, "People can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that." - Homer J Simpson
     
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  7. Gatorrick22

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    Read the link below it. ;)

    Can you figure out what the information in the green rectangle shows?
     
  8. l_boy

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    https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/vaccination-numbers-and-statistics

    They’ve given 64 million doses and almost everybody over 16 has had at least 2 doses
     
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    That chart is nowhere to be found in your link.
     
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    Those 6 would likely be the car wreck death with Covid or something along those lines. Gets to the reality that Covid deaths from Covid are far fewer than people think. Shoot. Even the hospitalizations are going to be for reasons other than Covid. People dying with Covid has been another way to peddle the fear…

    Also this gets to the reality healthy people and kids should not be taking these shots anymore. Really anyone now.
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    Over 10% is unvaccinated. And that is including the unfortunate under 16 population who never needed the shot.

    You are using over 16 vaccination rates.
     
  16. AzCatFan

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    And how do we know if there is a single death in the chart of anyone under 16? We don't. Again, numbers without context are just numbers.
     
  17. flgator2

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    New booster falls short on US protection against COVID: new CDC report (msn.com)

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a report that said the updated boosters were just 48% effective at preventing symptomatic infection from the XBB.1.5 subvariant for up to three months.

    Indeed, a 2022 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded that those who recently received a booster and were previously infected from the virus — as opposed to those who skipped vaccines and relied on natural immunity — benefited from the strongest protection against further illness from COVID.

    They determined whether the tested people were vaccinated and compared it to overall population vaccine data, finding that the people who received the booster were 48% more protected than those who did not get it.
     
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  18. QGator2414

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    I never said there was. You said that less than 3% of the population was unvaccinated.
     
  19. AzCatFan

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    I based my number on the link @i_boy provided.

    And while the bivalent booster fell just short of the 50% reduction in infection the CDC uses to call a vaccine effective, it still provided better protection against severe outcomes from a COVIDV infection.
     
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    Non-sense? As of Sept 2021, it was estimated that over 90% of adults in Israel had been fully vaccinated (wonder what that number would be now?). The odds of finding an adult to fit in your "no dose" demographic is ludicrously low.

    So, pretty much garbage/manipulated data. The foundation of right wing ignorance.

    Association of the Fourth BNT162b Vaccine With SARS-CoV-2 Infection
     
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