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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. altalias

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    For anyone who really wants an answer to the mask question I have an answer. My daughter had a PhD in pharmacognosy. She does medical research. Ubless you have similar credentials she understands science better than you. She, and all her similarly credentialed friends, wear masks. Not only that they wear them more often and in more places than anyone else I have met in any other circumstance. I am not interested in debate. You are wrong.
    Caveate: If it is proven that the Delta variant can be transmitted purely through air like tuberculosis them cloth masks would be useless. It has not been proven at this time. So they continue to masks up.
    I don't post much but some might remember that I said I have a daughter who is an ICU nurse that really wants you to get vaccinated. I have two daughters. The ICU nurse is currently in Shreveport. The medical researcher is currently Southampton.
     
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  2. RealGatorFan

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    Masks don't do squat with the way they are used. I know of way too many people who got Covid yet wear their masks everywhere they go. They are the sort of people that you see wearing their mask while driving with no one else in the car with them. They wash their hands more than the average doctor in the ER. I have one friend who uses more sanitizers than everyone on this board combined. She goes through 64 ounces a month of the stuff. Yet she got Covid. To this day she has no idea how she got it. She works from home, rarely goes anywhere and is the type that sanitizes before she goes into the store, sanitizes the cart/basket, and sanitizes after she leaves the store and then washes her hands when she gets home. She even takes fewer, shallow breaths in the store and she times herself to no longer than 10 minutes in the store. Besides her, almost 17 others I know said the same thing. I told them it's their mask. They aren't using the correct mask, wear it too long, and they are wearing it wrong. Unless you are changing out a mask daily, and sometimes even more than that, and it's a KN95 mask, you might as well not wear one at all.

    Really, the best thing to do is get vaccinated.
     
  3. gator95

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    Thanks but I’ll go with real world data that shows masks don’t work.
     
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    If anyone wonders why we're still in this, it is because of this nonsense and the anti-vaxxers. Listen to you and people die.
     
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  5. dangolegators

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    And ignore all the real world data that shows masks do work.
     
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  6. gator95

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    No one is dying by not wearing a mask and getting vaxed as long as they are over 18. But hey, you keep masking at home. Mask outside just in case also. Might want to load up on Clorax as well. Can’t be too safe lol.
     
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  7. gator95

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    All real world data shows masks don’t work. That is what is causing so many problems for the maskers. I know it’’s been 18+ months of believing something, but sometime soon you guys will see the light. I predict in maybe 6-12 months maybe. Only for some of you. Some will never realize it.
     
  8. dangolegators

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    Simply not true.
     
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  10. BigCypressGator1981

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    Many people wear them incorrectly. They are still very effective in the aggregate.
     
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    All theater, the special people are laughing their asses off at the crazed maskers.


     
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  12. gator95

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    Everyone knows it’s a joke except some in the media and those on here who buy their garbage. Go get vaccinated and move on with life. Similar to the belief of some on here of lockdowns and school closures.
     
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  13. NavyGator93

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    Spending a few days in Boulder. Everything open, but they believe in science. Their cases per 100k are around 7x less than where I live in Georgia. Not a little less, 7x less.
    As an aside, they have some crazy fit people out here.
     
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  14. citygator

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    Remind me why Doctors wear masks in surgery.
     
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  17. philnotfil

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    Virtue signalling?
     
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  18. WESGATORS

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    I was curious, so I looked it up. This was the first hit that I found (picked it because of the NIH in the URL):

    Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery (from 2015)

    Of note:

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
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  19. philnotfil

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    https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/community/boise/article254425558.html

     
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  20. BLING

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    Might be some very slight truth to this, as the types of infection people are worried about re: surgeries aren’t necessarily respiratory viruses. (Think staff infections). The problem there is often a contaminated instrument or someone in the operating room failing to sanitize (and it just takes one to screw it up). There are numerous ways for these bacteria to spread.

    That being said, staph and MRSA *can* spread by coughing, so that alone is reason enough 100% for surgeons to wear the mask even if the virus isn’t technically a respiratory virus. It can still use the mouth as a pathway.

    This could never be tested ethically. It’s basically “let’s drop sanitation and see how many people are infected as a result”. Seems quite a reach for the writer to just assume it’s “unlikely” that masks play a positive role in surgical sterilization/cleanliness protocols. Their role isn’t the whole enchilada, but it’s certainly >0.
     
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