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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. NavyGator93

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    In his defense, who would have ever thought Fauci’s vax status could be verified just by using Google.
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  2. BLING

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    Cons use DuckDuckGo to search, unless that one was also taken over by the deep state. :eek:
     
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  3. docspor

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    Hope he enjoys his eternity in god's glorious kingdom

    https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article254229818.html

    A self-described “right-wing religious fanatic” online radio host in Colorado who battled COVID-19 vaccine and mask mandates has died of coronavirus, his co-host said.

    Bob Enyart and his wife, Cheryl, had been hospitalized with COVID-19 for more than a week, according to a Facebook post by Denver Bible Church, where he was a pastor.

    Both had refused COVID-19 vaccines over concerns about the process to develop them, according to the website of his online Real Science Radio show.
     
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  4. AzCatFan

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    Meanwhile, hospital costs for the unvaccinated continue to rise. Over $5 billion over the last three months, with a conservative estimate that 84% of these hospital visits could have been avoided with the vaccine. Freedom isn't free, and here are the actual costs for those exercising their freedom to remain unvaccinated. And why I have no problem if those who choose to remain unvaccinated are denied jobs or have to pay, out of their own pocket, for tests to prove they are not infected with COVID.
     
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  5. duchen

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    Give him credit. Live Free or Die? He died for what he believed in. And the vaccine didn’t kill him.
     
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  6. ncargat1

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    This guy was a piece of dung. I won't celebrate, but I certainly will be playing "Another One Bites the Dust" right about now.
     
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  7. ncargat1

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    Sounds like the US Army is "all in" on vaccinations as well.....

    Covid-19 Live Updates: U.S. Army Tells Troops to Get Vaccinated or Risk Dismissal
     
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  8. slightlyskeptic

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    I find it strange that there would any kind of issue at all with people in the military when it comes to getting the FDA approved Covid vaccine. It kind of goes with the territory.

    Army Shots List
    Vaccination Agent Remarks

    Adenovirus, Types 4 and 7

    Influenza (Flu Shot) Recruits receive this shot in basic only during the designated flu season (October – March)

    Measles Measles Mumps and rubella (MMR) are administered to all recruits regardless of prior history.

    Meningococcal Quadrivalent meningococcal vaccine (containing A, C, Y, and W-135 polysaccharide antigens) is administered on a one-time basis to recruits. The vaccine is given as soon as practicable after in-processing or training. This vaccine is required routinely only for recruits, although its use may be indicated in other situations based on transmission potential and risk of contracting meningococcal disease.

    Mumps Measles Mumps and rubella (MMR) are administered to all recruits regardless of prior history.

    Polio A single dose of trivalent OPV is administered to all enlisted accessions. Officer candidates, ROTC cadets, and other Reserve Components on initial active duty for training receive a single dose of OPV unless prior booster immunization as an adult is documented.

    Rubella Measles Mumps and rubella (MMR) are administered to all recruits regardless of prior history.

    Tetanus-diphtheria A primary series of tetanus-diphtheria (Td) toxoid is initiated for all recruits lacking a reliable history of prior immunization in accordance with existing ACIP guidelines. Individuals with previous history of Td immunization receive a booster dose upon entry to active duty and subsequently in accordance with ACIP requirements.

    Routine “Booster” Shots while in the Military


    Influenza (Flu Shot) Annual, during “Flu Season” (October – March)
    Tetanus-diphtheria A primary series of tetanus-diphtheria (Td) toxoid is initiated for all recruits lacking a reliable history of prior immunization in accordance with existing ACIP guidelines. Individuals with previous history of Td immunization receive a booster dose upon entry to active duty and subsequently in accordance with ACIP requirements.

    Yellow Fever Navy and Marine Corps only.

    When Deploying or Traveling to High Risk Areas


    Hepatitis A

    JE Vaccine (Japanese B Encephalitis)

    Meningococcal

    Typhoid

    When Required by Host Country to Enter


    Cholera Cholera vaccine is not administered routinely to either active or reserve component personnel. Cholera vaccine is administered to military personnel, only upon travel or deployment to countries requiring cholera vaccination as a condition for entry, or upon the direction of the appropriate Surgeon General, or Commandant (G-K), Coast Guard.

    High Risk Occupational Groups


    Hepatitis B

    Measles

    Mumps

    Plague There is no requirement for routine immunization. Plague vaccine is administered to personnel who are likely to be assigned to areas where the risk of endemic transmission or other exposure is high. Vaccine may not be effective in the prevention of airborne infection. The addition of antibiotic prophylaxis is recommended for such situations.
    Rabies Rabies vaccine is administered to personnel with a high risk of exposure (animal handlers; certain laboratory, field, and security personnel; and personnel frequently exposed to potentially rabid animals in a non occupational or recreational setting).


    Varicella

    When Deployed to Area Where In-Theater Commander Accesses a Biological Threat


    Small Pox This vaccine is administered only under the authority of DoD Directive 6205.3, DoD

    Immunization Program for Biological Warfare Defense.


    Anthrax This vaccine is administered only under the authority of DoD Directive 6205.3, DoD

    Immunization Program for Biological Warfare Defense.
     
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  9. philnotfil

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    https://theweek.com/coronavirus/100...ing-body-of-evidence-that-the-trump-was-aware

    Email exchanges obtained by the House's select subcommittee on the COVID-19 pandemic "add to the growing body of evidence that the Trump administration knew the significant risk posed by the coronavirus but failed to execute an effective strategy to reduce the loss of American lives," Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) wrote in a letter to former Trump White House adviser Peter Navarro on Tuesday, per The Washington Post.

    In one email dated Feb. 29, 2020, Steven Hatfill, a virologist advising the administration, told Navarro that "we do not have a clue how many people are infected" in the United States, and warned that the first wave of cases "will be accompanied by a massive loss of credibility" for the White House. He urged "frank honesty" and "decisive direct actions" from the federal government just hours after former President Donald Trump had publicly undersold the threat of the virus and praised his team's response.

    Navarro went on to tell Trump the next day that their response was "not fast enough" and a "very serious public health emergency" was coming, but public rhetoric didn't change much in the aftermath.
     
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  10. ncargat1

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    Thanks for looking this up and posting. I kind of felt like this was the case, but having never been in the military, did not really know enough to comment.
     
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  11. OklahomaGator

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    There are 179 million fully vaccinated people in the US as of 2 days ago and 42 million people who have reported cases of COVID. If you assume they have natural immunity now, that is 221 million out of roughly 330 million people with some level of immunity to it. That is 67% of the country.

    Number of children in the U.S. by age 2019 | Statista

    There are 48 million under the age of 12, taking that off of the 330 then that leave 284 million eligible to be vaccinated. So we have vaccinated 63% of the eligible population.
     
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  12. NavyGator93

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    Informative. I can't even remember half the shots the navy gave me, it seems like they did them in groups (I assume they knew what they were doing). As I said before, the anthrax series was definitely unforgettable.

    With all that crap running thru my body, I will either die soon or at the age of 150.
     
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  13. WESGATORS

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    OK, the problem with that first part is nobody seems to be tracking how many of those who have had COVID are vaccinated.

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
  14. HallGator

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    This would be well worth knowing.
     
  15. ncargat1

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    Many who have had COVID have been vaccinated as well. I do not believe you can just assume a straight sum as though they are two mutually exclusive groups.
     
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  16. OklahomaGator

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    good point, thanks
     
  17. channingcrowderhungry

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    I truly don't understand people here who don't. Baffling
     
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  18. ncargat1

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    Better yet, someone who actually knows something about immunology. That rules out most GPs.
     
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  19. WESGATORS

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    Interesting comment, but the way I see it, any GP is going to have more than anecdotal evidence on how COVID is impacting his/her customers (same for how the vaccines are impacting them). A decent GP should be educating himself/herself on what those with expertise in immunology are putting out there as well. It seems awfully presumptuous to rule out "most GPs," but even if that is recommended, how are all the folks who now rule out their GP going to get access to those with immunology expertise?

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
  20. jeffbrig

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    My GP was actually a specialist in infectious disease. Really sharp guy, just retired. Had a great conversation with him a few years ago, after my wife and I had a potential exposure to hantavirus. We had stayed in a cabin in Yosemite that the CDC traced as the source of a small outbreak cluster. That was an interesting letter we got from the CDC. And let to this hilarious exchange with my Dr:

    Me: Doc, I got a letter from the CDC that I may have been exposed to hantavirus
    Dr: Cool!
    Me: Huh?
    Dr: In all my years as a doctor, no one has EVER called me about a hantavirus exposure... tell me about it
    Me: <explain CDC letter, cabin, etc...>
    Dr: When were you there?
    Me: <gives dates>
    Dr: You're fine
    Me: How do you know?
    Dr: If you had hanta, you'd be dead by now...
     
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