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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    Here's yet another explanation on how viruses mutate and create variants.

    There’s this idea that because most RNA viruses cannot error correct, they make lots and lots of mistakes. That’s not great for us, because it allows them to mutate rapidly and avoid the immune system. But if they make too many mistakes, it’s not good for the virus either, because the viruses will just break down.

    And when the replication does make a mistake and it’s not caught by the error correction, will the resulting virus be more successful or less successful?

    There are three possibilities—mutations can do nothing, they can impair the virus, or they can facilitate the virus replication. If the virus transmits better, then it will more likely be selected [through evolution] to be dominant. If the virus transmits at the same rate, it’ll still transmit, but if it’s worse at transmitting, it’ll get lost.

    We’ve seen in the pandemic that mutations have arisen and then they became really widespread and for almost all of the ones we hear about, it became clear that they have at least slightly better transmission. I don’t think it even has to be dramatically better. It just has to have a slight advantage over the original virus.
    I'm sure the ignorant will find this funny too. But then the ignorant also find information too difficult for them to understand funny as a defense mechanism. Laugh at something, and it loses power to the person laughing. Of course, to the intelligent that actually understands, the ignorance is the lowest form of stupidity, and the laughter is just confirmation of said ignorance.
     
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  2. gator95

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    Death, taxes and this guy trying to scare everyone with variants. Like Charlie Brown thinking this time he's going to kick that football, you keep trying to kick it to the moon! One of these times you will connect.
     
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  3. pkaib01

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    Your trolling aside, Delta is more dangerous (in virology). It takes as little as 5 minutes on google to appreciate it. It is more infectious (50-70%) and harder to treat. It is suspected to have a higher long haul rate as well.
     
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  5. AzCatFan

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    If ignorance is bliss....well, if I finished my thought, I'd get banned.

    I hope I never connect, and there never is a variant that has significant immunity to current vaccines. But you laughing at the fact that variants are out there, and more will continue to crop up as long as there are more and more people infected with COVID, which is scientific fact, just shows how happy you must be.
     
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  6. buckeyegator

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    from worldometer. cases in the last 7 days vs cases in the previous 7 days down 15%, deaths down 20%. can fauci go away now please.
     
  7. RIP

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    Is he at your house or something?
     
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  8. buckeyegator

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    no, i heard he and kamala went to the border.
     
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  9. BigCypressGator1981

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    He lives in your head.
     
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  10. buckeyegator

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    but he pays rent.
     
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  11. ncargat1

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    Actually, there is simply no way that anyone has done a proper study in viral transmission in human hosts. Media and even some scientists are grossly misusing transmissibility and are not grasping the concept in increased fitness of a variant, vs all of the scary attributes that cannot be proven without properly constructed and conducted studies.

    Also, have everyone get the damned mRNA based vaccine and this becomes a super non-issue.
     
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  12. pkaib01

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    Brutal...

     
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  13. duchen

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    This was Their choice. Their insurer and the government can pay for their care now.
     
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  14. ncargat1

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    Exactly. They chose to die.
     
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  15. duchen

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    No. They chose to expose themselves to the greater risk of getting sick in lieu of vaccination. I wish those who are alive a speedy recovery.
     
  16. philnotfil

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    Numbers are almost low enough that contact tracing will be a meaningful tool in our fight against covid again.
     
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  17. gator95

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    Reason number 1,000,000,101 that kids shouldn't be vaccinated. But variants....

    COVID-19 Vaccines Advice

    Children should not be vaccinated for the moment.

    There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    Hopkins Medical disagrees about kids 12 and older getting vaccinated. They cite non-lethal effects of COVID-19 on kids, like long haul symptoms, and the greater overall public health concerns. Kids may be spared the worst for the most part, but they still be vectors that infect others. Especially kids over 10. Unless the kids are going to around only fully vaccinated adults, kids should still be masking and social distancing.

    The delta variant is making the rounds in the US. It's proving to be dangerous, especially to the unvaccinated. Fortunately, this variant isn't resistant to the vaccine. Nor is it more harmful to kids. Still, if you choose not to vaccinate those 12 and older at this time, other precautions are in order.
     
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  20. g8rjd

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    Umm… that’s pretty much the definition of consequence.

     
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