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CDC Director Says Students Are Experiencing More Suicides and Overdoses than COVID Deaths

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by flgator2, Jul 30, 2020.

  1. BLING

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    If you take your kids to school, then you are effectively the bus-driver in this scenario.
     
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  2. StrangeGator

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    New York is seeing a spread? That's news to me. Their current rolling seven day positivity rate is 1.1%, and that's with nearly 10 million people living on top of each other. Multiply 1.1 by 17 and you get Florida's rate.

    Daily State-by-State Testing Trends
     
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  3. gatorzfan

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    not sure which is sillier , your post or that someone agreed with it.
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    That is Trump personified. Drag you into a hole and then convince you he is the only one with a way out of the hole that he dug.

    Read his books, if you owe bank $100k, they own you, if you owe them $100M, you own them. Get them to lend you enough and then convince them you are the only one that can get them 50% of what they are owed back.

    Let the virus spread so far and so wide that it is nearly impossible to contain and so too bad, we can't contain it.

    The fact is we had much better choices before than we have now. Continuing to double down on stupid is just going to make it worse.
     
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  5. tilly

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    Haven't read the thread yet...but I assume the rise has more to do with social media bullying and the ease of which a young life can be torn apart by the cruel mob today. :(
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    in case you missed this in Phil post

    However, a scan of Swedish newspapers makes clear that school outbreaks have occurred. In the town of Skellefteå, a teacher died and 18 of 76 staff tested positive at a school with about 500 students in preschool through ninth grade. The school closed for 2 weeks because so many staff were sick, but students were not tested for the virus. In Uppsala, staff protested when school officials, citing patient privacy rules, declined to notify families or staff that a teacher had tested positive. No contact tracing was done at the school. At least two staff members at other schools have died, but those schools remained open and no one attempted to trace the spread of the disease there. When asked about these cases, Ludvigsson said he was unaware of them. He did not respond to a query about whether he would amend the review article to include them.
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    We did not get Covid two months after Europe. Technically, the first cases in Europe were in France on January 24th, which is 1 day earlier than the first case in the US, officially. Even if you move the European case to symptom start and don't do the same in the US, that would mean that they were 8 days before us.

    First cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the WHO European Region, 24 January to 21 February 2020
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    That propaganda is working. Mask/Distance/Vaccine or it’s over. Covid is the only Public Health issue now...

    :cool:o_O:eek::confused::D
     
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  9. StrangeGator

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    Pretty sure the rate of suicides and fatal overdoses among students has always been higher than Covid-19. This is a meaningless and misleading statistic. But let's send everyone back to school and see what happens with student suicides and drug overdoses when their teachers and parents become seriously ill, many of them fatally.

    Send kids back to the classroom this fall and this virus will be around a lot longer and tens of thousands more adults will die.
     
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  10. philnotfil

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    Four months ago. Time flies when you are having fun :)
     
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  11. Gatorhead

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    True but our exposure is minimized.
    Just can't see putting kids on buses now.
     
  12. FrankGator627

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    So then we were able to push our spike back even further...

    Regardless, the point remains Europe got their large wave of cases before America. It’s not like they completely dodged this thing.
     
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  13. Trickster

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    “Once again”?? I didn’t express my opinion in my response, and I certainly don’t have an agenda. I simply suggested it is a tough issue, and that the consensus - the herd, if you will - right or wrong, has made the decisions: shut down, partial reopen, wear mask, schools - all those things.
     
  14. mdgator05

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    Yeah, that isn't true either. Their first big wave started a little short of 2 weeks prior to our first big wave (which may have just been a function of a lack of testing in the US early on) and their second wave has been far smaller than our second wave with a far more sustained drop between them. If you push play on these charts, you will see the difference in time between when the EU and US showed up as starting their first waves. It was 10-14 days.

    Cases per Million:
    Coronavirus Pandemic Data Explorer
    Deaths per Million:
    Coronavirus Pandemic Data Explorer
     
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  15. docspor

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    We would be reopening schools if we had competent leadership.

    Seems like lazy analysis to compare Trump virus deaths among young people to suicides/overdoses. How many Trump virus deaths would be caused by them spreading it seems like a far, far better comparison. Then it gets even mo' complicated. Killing Mom, Dad, grandpa could in turn lead to more suicides & drug overdoses.

    Thanks Trump.
     
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  16. JG8tor

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    Let's see...we always knew about the education for kids - pretty important. Then we learned that it gives parents time and opportunity to work or otherwise participate in the economy - pretty important. Now we are realizing that it provides socialization and emotional stimulation - also pretty damn important. I can't wait for things to get back to normal so we can go back to slashing education budgets and bitching about how much teachers are getting paid.
     
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  17. WarDamnGator

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    The data isn't great on this. The first official cases in America were patients who were knowingly brought back from the cruise ships, IIRC, and those patents were isolated and treated, and not allowed to spread the virus. ... the first known case of "community spread" in America, where a person tested positive but wasn't out of the country or in contact with a known patient, wasn't until Feb. 26th, almost a month later.
     
  18. flgator2

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    We have a competent leader it's just those (people)in congress and those that keep voting them in. Sorry if you don't like the opinion of the CDC director , it's the Trump virus it the Chinese flu like virus
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    Trump is President. The buck stops at his desk. Or at least the buck has stopped at the Resolute Desk for Presidents past. But Trump said himself, he takes no responsibility. Some competent leader we have there. o_O
     
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  20. cocodrilo

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    Don't tell us why.
     
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