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Candy's Mock post Auburn

Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by candymanfromgc, Oct 10, 2019.

  1. ncg8or

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    Franks was putting up big numbers, being efficient with the ball (not fumbling several times a game), and was leading us to huge wins one after another going back to last season. It would have been ridiculous for Mullen to replace him absent a total meltdown or injury. It's guessing to say you're "pretty sure" we wouldn't be looking as good with Franks, but his production and the W's while he was starting for us aren't guesses, they're facts.
     
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  2. TrueGator

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    I would think CDM made his decision to start Franks based on leadership, running ability, and experience. I would have made the same decision if I were given the choice.

    However, I believe that in terms of leadership, Trask, while quieter, is gaining the team's respect with his play, and the experience box will be a wash after this season. The deep ball is so rarely thrown that it hardly matters that Franks can freakishly heave the ball 70 yards. So, it's going to come down to whether Franks' running ability (which could possibly be limited returning from injury) outweighs Trask's better vision of the field and quicker processing through his progressions.
     
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  3. DomiGator

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    LOL, what big wins? A bad FSU? a totally unmotivated Mich in a meaningless bowl? almost lost to a bad Miami? or actually losing to a mediocre KY?
     
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  4. ncg8or

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    Yep, beating FSU, Michigan, and Miami back-to-back-to-back were 3 huge wins for this program. Not sure about you personally, but I know that Gator fans everywhere celebrated each of those victories with relish.
     
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  5. ripster

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    I did. I'm not sure why Trask grabbing his opportunity and shining becomes an indictment on Mullen. Who knows if Trask was this ready last year. After a successful year (and great ending), do you pull a known quantity that was performing well for a unknown? Mullen's getting national recognition for having three quarterbacks ready to go, but we're questioning his priorities and judgment? What if Trask gets hurt and Emory beats Georgia. Is that another indictment of Mullen's judgment not to have played Emory over Trask. Don't think so.
     
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  6. crl

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    OK, I'll give you FF and I'll take KT. ;)
     
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  7. crl

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    It does not. And it's not even close. Our O is so much more dynamic and productive under KT. The only thing limiting it is the fumbles and crappy OL play. If KT eliminates the fumbles and OL plays decent, it's great. The O was pretty painful to watch under FF against scUM and UK. Kinda like last year until the last quarter of USC and the halfassu and Mich games.
     
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  8. TrueGator

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    Many would agree.
     
  9. GameTime1

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    All should agree.
     
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  10. DomiGator

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    Are you still living in the 90s? It would be true if it's 90s or early 2000s. Yes we celerated and all. But label them as HUGW WINS? LOL
     
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  11. DomiGator

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    I almost thought you meant we beat GA, Bama, and Clem back to back to back.
     
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  12. GameTime1

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    I think context is important. While not at the level of the past, beating those teams is always huge. And 2 of them blowouts.
     
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  13. DomiGator

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    Pleas don't sugar coat it. Mullen already made multiple bad decisions (he's a good coach and I'm happy to have him, don't get me wrong). However, he made huge mistakes 1) have Knox over Seider, 2) didn't pursue Burrow when he's available, and 3) didn't recognize Trask earlier.

    Please tell me one reason you have Knox over Seider, the only reason is familarity. Knox is his guy. FF is "his guy", he is pre-determined.

    Just like FF likes to do in the games, pre-dertermined where to throw the ball regradless the the game situation.

    Just like he ran EJ at a critical jucntureof the game on our 25 yd line and wasted a drive that we could never recover from. The resaon? It was "pre-scripted".

    All coaches make mistakes, they all thought they are great and can do anything. The famous Mcelwain "dog" quote, and he ran off Grier to start his guy "Del Rio", etc.

    Joe Moorhead bragged his scheme and play calling when he took the Miss St job and had a lot people thought he's an upgrade for quite a while, stick wtih his guy (PSU transfer instead of Schrader) etc.

    Mullen is still an old school coach that wanted to stick with his guy and his style. That's why Saban is such a great coach. Overhual his entire O philosophy at his age, unbelievable job.
     
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  14. TrueGator

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    Yes, maybe they should, but all don't.
     
  15. bernie_lomax

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    I think the offense will change dramatically next year and EJ will be the best fit. We lose all our WRs, by far our best position group. The OL will take a step forward and the TEs will become a major strength (if they haven’t already). Therefore I see the run game and hitting TEs as our bread and butter. I think EJ and FF can do that about as well as KT and EJs running ability relative to FF adds more to the offense than the difference between FF and EJ in the occasional throw downfield.

    However, it’s hard to know what we have in Copeland, Wells, and WRs that haven’t played much. Grimes decision will be huge in terms of what this offense becomes next year.
     
  16. ripster

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    It doesn't sound like your "happy to have him".

    I can't believe we're still talking about Seider. Where in left field did this come from. Oh yes, Seider is why we lost to LSU. All hail Seider the king of running backs. Move on my friend. O wait, I forgot, we lost to LSU because Frank's was the quarterback? Bad Mullen.

    So essentially you're arguing that because Mullen didn't go get (assuming there was real interest by Burrow) another unproven (at the time) QB is your big mistake he made. Those things happen and are hardly and indictment on his judgment and priorities for the program.

    Mullen was tasked with fixing an offense and rebuilding a program that two staffs prior to that couldn't do. He brought in guys he was comfortable that could run his offense...to fix the offense and establish a culture. I think he's doing well.
     
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  17. bobbybaker86

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    As i've stated, since we're more pass first, Trask fits this scheme and mold better. When we're balanced, I think it fits Franks more due to how Mullen loves to use the QB as an additonal running threat. Conversly, it was nice seeing KT be aggressive as a runner last Saturday. If only our interior could block
     
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  18. crl

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    Grimes, Copeland and Toney will be back. Plus Pitts. Hopefully we sign Henderson and he's the real deal. We'll be pretty good at WR next year. Hope DM is smart enough to keep playing KT if he sticks around.
     
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  19. bobbybaker86

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    Grimes and Toney (even if he wasn't out with injury) have NO business thinking about the NFL. Even Grimes I saw last year against FSU do his thing is still like a 4th round pick AT BEST. He just seems stiff in the hips but that's another discussion for another day.

    Gimes
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    I don't expect much out of the following returners:
    Wells
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    Lang

    I don't mind that returning group at WR and I do expect some true freshmen to get snaps too
     
  20. crl

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    FF is not that dangerous as a runner. He's certainly no Deshaun Watson, Justin Fields, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurd, etc. And he can't even throw/pick out receivers as good as them. In fact FF is not that much better than KT as a runner and KT is way way better as a QB. TBH EJ is no where near the aforementioned QB's as a runner or thrower either though. Of course those guys are pretty good. :)
     
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