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Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by candymanfromgc, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. candymanfromgc

    candymanfromgc Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    All right, UF finishes top ten as most were hoping for but did CDM do what he needs to do which is upgrade the talent level. The magic 8 ball says all signs point to yes.

    For today I will fill in some blanks that I could not discuss before and hopefully answer most of you questions. Just the Offense today.

    There is a question on the 2020 class and predictions for it and I can assure you that anything today would be a bit off from the final product. In recruiting the only constant is that things aren't constant. I looked back on some of my notes and who I felt would be in the class and, well the final outcome was just a little bit different.

    Lets delve in shall we.

    Jalon Jones: He was the top target for CDM and he was asked to commit and not take visits. He did that and did a lot of recruiting behind the scenes.

    Wright: The dude should have been a 5*, UM screwed up on this one. UF stayed on Wright from the get go and talked him out of visiting UGA. I love this guys film.

    Sanders: UF never got traction with Sanders even though his brother was on campus. The allure of playing together was a mothers pipe dream that never came to fruition. Sanders was always going to Bama despite what UGA thought about a flip. I actually think UF finished 3rd for Sanders. I did late in the process get info that Sanders had a change of heart but it didn't happen. Sometimes people let their heart get in the way of objectivity.

    Zip: I have it on good authority that UM was a serious contender. In the end UF, CDM and Chucky were too big of a pull. Don't underestimate the power of a pipe line from LW and UF got the commitment. I don't think people know how close this was to going the other way.

    Tarquin: TBH, I was alerted to the flip by one of your fellow posters. (he can come out of the shadows if he so desires). This poster had a connection to the family and after he contacted me I begin to dig. I had heard some things but didn't think there was much to them. Boy was he right on the money. Anyway, Tarquin did not hit it off with the previous staff. Michael actually contacted UF and told them I am interested. Well, you know the rest of the story. MT will most likely red shirt and rehab. I suggest that he will be a force down the road.

    Kingsley Eguakun: I love this guys film. Only a 3* but I don't care. Getting him from UM made it even better. Projected at Center, I was told he was all but commited to UF prior to his visit. The staff did their job and he is all Gator.

    Hammond: Hammond transferred back to Lake Wales from IGM and UF was not initially interested. I recall several questions about DH and I just didn't know or understand the reluctance of the staff initially. This is one where the staff made their own analysis and decided to offer. I can say I'm glad they did. I think the guy will be a Beast.

    Harrod: He was a Gator before he ever visited. Excellent job of recruiting. Stayed solid from start to finish.

    Simonds: TBH I think the staff loves him but wants him to work on S&C. He is an aggressive lineman and should not be under valued.

    Wilson: The silent Assassin, He was so quiet, people wondered if he would stick. Wardrick never wavered and will be in the 2 deep from day one IMO.

    White: The staff liked him a lot. Some/many posters wanted him processed out. It was never going to happen. It might take a year or two but EW is going to be a starter and hard to deal with by opposing teams.

    Weston: many poster never warmed up to Weston. CDM and crew did. A under appreciated talent IMO.

    Marks: Go back and look at my early comments on Marks. He is a talent and I'm glad he stuck from the beginning.

    Henderson: Most thought Henderson was a flip candidate. He was asked by the staff to shut it down if he wanted in and he did.

    Whittemore: I have been a supporter of the offer and commit from the get go. Trent will start at WR so I have him here. I have been told by people connected to the Bobcats that he is the real deal. I wonder what concentrating on FB and not year round sports will do for him.

    Other Offensive targets:
    QB: UF passed on Howell and Mauer who signed with NC and UT. I do think UF will sign 2 QB's in 2020 if they can get the right 2.

    RB: UF never considered anyone seriously except Sanders and Wright.

    TE: Billingsley and Rae were in the mix. Rae was never going to choose UF due to distance. However Billingsley gave UF a silent but went to Bama and flipped.

    OL: Ira Henry, Kamar Bell, Jones,Neal and Lucas. Of the five, UF had the best shot with Lucas. Wrights mom and Lucas moms were friends and Ms. Wright was trying to convince Lucas to play with Nayquan. In the end the end it didn't work in UF's favor.

    Jones, although a cousin to Emory, was never truly considering the Gators. Bell, was behind several guys and never got the push. Henry was intimidated by the 7 commits UF already had and saw greater opportunity elsewhere. Neal was a botch by the staff. They got on him too late and no one will know for sure if UF could have got him with earlier contact.

    WR: Higgins, Knox, Jones. Higgins chose the Stanford degree over UF. To Higgins credit, he was up front with the staff during the whole process. If he had not been accepted at Stanford he would have been a Gator. Knox was not what the staff wanted. Jones pretty much the same deal. I always liked Jones film but I will defer to their judgement.

    There is more drama on the other side of the ball and the potential mystery recruit.
    Coming soon.

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  2. Nostradamus

    Nostradamus All American

    Sep 18, 2015
    Excellent insights Candy. Thank you as always.

    Would have been epic to land Neal. Oh well.
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  3. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    Always like to read your posts, candyman. Great stuff. On the Neal 'botch". One good reason why guys like you should be seen, heard and read by someone that knows the coaches is for that very reason. You never know which coach might need to know about which recruit... some great recruits slip through the cracks. Great stuff, thank you.

    When do you think you can give something on 2020 recruits?
  4. candymanfromgc

    candymanfromgc Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
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  5. DBCooper

    DBCooper GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 8, 2007
    Hendersonville, NC
    Thanks for introducing sanity to the recruiting process. Always enjoy your insider insight - especially when the insider spends the time and energy confirming/denying the rumors.
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  6. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

    Jan 5, 2010
    One of the best parts of the whole silly season. Thanks candy
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  7. 1975Gator

    1975Gator Junior

    Jan 5, 2012
    Thanks Candy. Just FYI, I think you have Lakeland confused with Lake Wales on Zipperer and Hammond.
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  8. orangebluegator

    orangebluegator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 8, 2007
    Thanks for the peek behind the proverbial curtains. Much appreciated.

    Any reason we were late on Neal? I thought he was at IMG with Trey Sanders. Seems like a big time prospect so it's not like he was flying under the radar. Did he blow up late?
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  9. GameTime1

    GameTime1 GC Legend

    Jul 27, 2015
    The evan neal tidbit is interesting
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  10. candymanfromgc

    candymanfromgc Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    You are correct
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  11. candymanfromgc

    candymanfromgc Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    No, just one of those things I guess. Not a bash on UF, everyone has them.
  12. thekentuckygator

    thekentuckygator GC Hall of Fame

    Oct 8, 2018
    Great stuff as always. Seriously, thanks for all the info, guesstimates and ideas.
    What you do for the board is invaluable.

    Go Gators!
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  13. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Legend

    Nov 11, 2014
    Those were very interesting bits of tid regarding Higgins. Stanford is a top-echelon academic institution, and, to know that we were in the same league with a student of that caliber is impressive.
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  14. DoctorGator

    DoctorGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    Very invaluable. Candy, I wish you many years of doing this, and that it remains fun for you. Several people over the years, including me, have attempted to do what you are doing, but no one has done it better. I and others have stopped doing it because of caustic and hateful posts when a few of our "predictions," based on information from incredible sources (in my case UF coaches several staffs ago) did not pan out. I hope that you are tougher than your predecessors (at least I still post here, most have left the board), and that our fellow Gators will appreciate your efforts when things aren't going as well as they are now, and you miss a call or two. Dont worry about the trolls; they are always lurking; just ignore them. Thanks so much for what you do.
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  15. thekentuckygator

    thekentuckygator GC Hall of Fame

    Oct 8, 2018
    Personally, as a reasonable and intelligent individual I understand that situations and information as well as sources change. It’s a fluid situation.

    I don’t look at the information Candy and others with connections provide as right or wrong, accurate or inaccurate even. I look at it like educated insight from someone more knowledgable and informed than myself.

    In that context, it’s all good. The infor that many of you so graciously post is, to me, invaluable. Because without it I would be unable to paint the broad picture that I am afforded because of said information.

    Myself as the overwhelming amount of others here, I believe, are very appreciative of what Candy and others do to take time from their lives to help Gator Nations faithful to have a better insight into this aspect of the program.

    For that, we should all be respectful and thankful.
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  16. StrangeGator

    StrangeGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    We've been through that before with kids who wanted to play for Stanford. I believe Max Starks chose UF after coming up a little short academically for Stanford.
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  17. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Aug 14, 2014
    6 Mile Creek, Florida
    Many thanks Candy. Really appreciate your insights and background info - it’s interesting to hear how much discussion takes place with recruits regarding shutting down their other visits and recruitment activities, e.g., Jones, Wright, Henderson. So much going on behind the scenes we never (can’t) hear about.

    You are a highly valued asset to this forum Candyman. Many thanks again.

    Go Gators
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  18. grant1

    grant1 GC Hall of Fame

    Nov 10, 2009
    But we’re not in the same level which is why he chose them over us. We were his Plan B.
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  19. Gatorhead

    Gatorhead GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    Thank you Candy!
  20. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Legend

    Nov 11, 2014
    Still impressive that top notch academic talent has us in their top two. How's your school doing academically?
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