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Can control problems be fixed?

Discussion in 'Diamond Gators' started by gator34654, Jul 10, 2023.

  1. wingtee

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    I’m leaking a bit of oil lately
     
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  2. wingtee

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    That’s incredible walk / IP ratio unless your IPs were 12-13 per season . Where did you pitch? In State ? I pitched at UF , 74Nole at FSU. I couldn’t get it up there in the 90’s though. 74 Nole was up in the high 90’s .
    I unfortunately gave up more walks than I needed to so my career ended at UF
     
  3. neutrino_boi

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    Here are the SEC BB & HB numbers for 2023, from secsports.com. Lots of free passes (also HR and K) in modern game.
    Team (BB+HB)/9 IP BB HB
    Tennessee 3.64 568.00 183 47
    South Carolina. 4.21 541.00 205 48
    Alabama 4.79 555.67 238 58
    LSU 4.91 612.33 271 63
    Vanderbilt 5.28 547.67 251 70
    Arkansas 5.33 530.67 257 57
    Kentucky 5.40 526.33 245 71
    Florida 5.68 613.00 305 82
    Missouri 5.75 449.00 230 57
    Texas A&M 6.12 566.33 320 65
    Auburn 6.22 509.00 287 65
    Ole Miss 6.36 459.67 266 59
    Georgia 6.67 483.33 276 82
    Mississippi State 7.69 453.00 321 66
    AVERAGE 5.52 529.64 261 64
     
  4. GatorLurker

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    Did you plunk them instead?
     
  5. GatorLurker

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    A few years ago my doc asked me how often I peed at night. My reply was about once per month.

    My PSA is really low so even at my advanced 69 year old age I don't get the digital probe during my annual physical.
     
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  6. GatorLurker

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    But you had a yellowhammer. No need for a high velo 4-seamer with that pitch. But if you had one from the left side and called Sandy ...
     
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  7. 74nole

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    “You’ll never command the outside half if you don’t own the inside half”…..Bob Gibson

    That’s how I learned the game—and are damn proud I did!
     
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  8. GatorLurker

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  9. wingtee

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    I’m in range . My peeing coorelates with the amount of Stella I consume that evening
     
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  10. chiappigator

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    What part of. “Just throw a darn strike”. Is so so sophisticated and complicated ? Boss man is FOS.
     
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  12. chiappigator

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    Love data and facts. But can you distill that down to a layman level of comprehension.
     
  13. chiappigator

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    I’m a forever lurker here. Big fan of wing tee. U da man. I ran that offense in HS as QB. Always loved when coach called boot left or right.
    Regardless.

    Doesn’t matter. Glory days.
     
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  14. chiappigator

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    Stop snd Spend money at Chiappinis in Melrose on the wAy pit of town to the beach please. Your patronage is appreciated.
     
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    HL Mencken is credited with asserting, "For every complex and difficult problem, there is a simple solution. And it's wrong." Pitching well is a complex and difficult problem.

    Throwing strikes is a simple request, but its execution is complicated. In post #6 of this thread, 74nole broke down the steps of a pitcher's delivery that made more sense than "just throw a darn strike." If it were as easy as you suggest, batters would never walk or be hit. Other than yourself can you name a pitcher who gave up "maybe 10 walks per season max" over a moderate number of innings, such as the number played by this season's Gator starters? The success of this year's Gator team that struggled to "just throw a darn strike" contradicts the quality of your analysis. I welcome a reply that addresses the substance of the issue. I've tried to tie my replies to exactly what you said. It's not an insult for me to disagree with you.
     
  16. chiappigator

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    lmao. Just throw a damn strike. In the zone.

    I analyzed every movement of my wife backing her F150 4x4 out of our driveway. Every wrist movement. Every mirror check. Every brake touch. Incredible

    just throw a damn strike.
     
  17. chiappigator

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    It really ain’t that hard.
     
  18. insuragator

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    You are still badass amigo. I always played center because I was fast but pitching is a whole different art. Much respect! 74 Nole played with my Uncle at FSU. Good dude!
     
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  19. shelbygt350

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    The pinnacle of losing control were two Cardinals, Rick Ankiel and Von McDaniel.

    Von McDaniel went direct from high school to MLB as an 18 year old. In 1957, he relieved in one game then next up drew a start vs the defending NL World Series team, the Dodgers. He pitched a 2 hit nine inning shut out, no walks. He some how lost control, the next year couldn't throw strikes and ended up in minor leagues, changing to be a 3Ber but never made it back.

    Ankiel was a stud lefty in 1999 and suddenly became wild. It never came back, went to minors became OFer and had a decent run as an OFer for St L and KC and some other teams. Hit about 150 MLB HRs. So he succeeded.
     
  20. ocalaman

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    The only reasonable explanation came from Yogi Berra: "Baseball is 90% mental; the other half is physical."
     
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