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Bill Maher triggers with “fat” again…

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by QGator2414, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    If we want it improve health outcomes in this country. We need to figure how to discuss this topic without upsetting people.

    My trigger was 197 on the scale in November of 2008.

     
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  2. duchen

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    He is right. I used to weigh close to 260. I would be dead today of I had not radically changed my way of eating. The best concept is in the title of a book: “Eat to Live.” Not live to eat.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    Great title!

    There is no right answer in how to do it. But there are wrong answers. Honestly you can over do it.

    A great start imo is portion control. Then slowly try to remove as much of the sugars and carbohydrates that you can. It does not have to be perfect. I enjoy my IPAs and wine.

    My mangrove snapper (salty/pepper/garlic/lime and did sneak a few bites of the flounder we caught and cooked whole for my youngest) small bowl of rice and jalapeño (grown in our back yard) poppers were phenomenal tonight.

    My big issue right now is I am shut down from running (knee). But that is a mental thing for me. And I will find things to push myself until I can get back at it. Walk briskly for 30 minutes a day and you will get what your heart and body needs.
     
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    Is it okay to live to drink, or is that suddenly “unhealthy,” too?
     
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  5. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

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    My old man had two terrible knees from his college football days. He picked up riding, and it changed his life. Consider a bike.
     
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  6. QGator2414

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    I did the bike for a short period. Can’t get into deep thought with my current situation. Riding a bike next to cars going twice as fast is just not my thing. Sitting on a stationary is doable but not great. For now I will be riding with Paul Ryman and RIID on YouTube until I can get back at it. But I will try to back off some. Going to be hard going into fall. I am use to running 7 miles a day in the Fall/Winter/Spring. But that has certainly taken a toll. Funny thing is tennis caused my most recent issue but I think I could go hit tomorrow.

    Really working on my stretching (maybe the biggest thing I have neglected and people should think about) with the stationary right now. Depending on how long my knee takes to settle down will probably get back into some sort push-up/ab routine as well.
     
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  7. uftaipan

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    I considered stretching once. But then I learned that the Vikings never stretched before going into the shield wall, and that was that.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    I hate stretching. But have to admit…it works a couple of weeks in. And I am still not 100% committed.
     
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    I used to be addicted to working out. I had abs and all that. I hated missing a workout but usually ate what I wanted. I’m fat now and eat horribly and don’t work out. It’s my fault. I take responsibility. Of course, I think there is a wide gulf between caring about someone’s health and not enabling bad choices versus just being mean to folks to make oneself feel better. But I have a hard time comparing it to other forms of discrimination because I do think it’s mostly a choice.
     
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  10. oragator1

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    I try not to ever comment on weight issues, because I’m one of those weird people that has always had to eat to keep weight on. So I cant relate to the struggles and avoid meeting on them.

    But just empirically and without speaking to the why of where we are, the weight problem in this country costs us something like a trillion dollars a year, between diabetes, heart disease, blood pressure, joint and bone issues, missed work days, the extra food bought because larger people need to eat more, the extra gas used because an extra hundred pounds in a car means more gas, larger clothes mean more fabric and more associated cost, over time larger seats in stadiums means fewer people and less revenue for concerts and sports events, same with planes…and that before the military concerns Maher raised. The list is really endless.
     
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  11. GatorNorth

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    Try a Pilates reformer until your knee heals.

    I tore my ACL playing tennis 2 years ago. After reconstruction I ran on a zero gravity treadmill at PT until my knee was healed enough to spin more intensely. Was a great way to stay fit.
     
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    The issue lies almost entirely with the fact it's been used as a pejorative for decades, if not centuries, and still is.

    Heck, the word 'wibble' would be offensive if we used it to put others down for long enough. Move the topic towards positive verbiage and healthy eating, voila. It's not being precious - it's being aware of the circumstances and finding a smart way forward.
     
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    Americans can’t handle its food choices, and don’t you dare limit them. (see Bloomberg)

    The food industry and “healthcare” industry, are attached to the hip.

    I believe unhealthy substances should be taxed more, and medical insurance should account for unhealthy lifestyles and habits.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    I had never heard of a Pilates reformer. Very interesting. I just might keep this in mind as I proceed. Especially for the wife as she spends a lot of time with yoga and stretching in order to help with her back and posture. People do not realize how physically demanding that dentistry and certain medical professions can be. It takes a toll physically and mentally.
     
  15. QGator2414

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    I agree. But I think the bigger issue is the food industry. They are very good at marketing and messaging to the point of a very unhealthy lifestyle while making people think they are being healthy.
     
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    do you think it’s all fair game within the free market?
     
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    Yes. But don’t get your hopes up. The food and healthcare industries have way too much influence that is unfortunately not healthy.
     
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  18. QGator2414

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    I do think it is a catch 22 when it comes to health. But I have no issues with a free market charging accordingly. We already tax certain things at higher rates. I use to be against taxing soda at different rates. But my position is much more open to that now.
     
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  20. tilly

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    Calorie deficit.
    Work out in a way that you enjoy.
    Find new high protein foods that make you feel full.

    That is the start.
     
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