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Bill Maher calls out US media over Covid coverage

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  1. gator95

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    Nope, but FL lifted restrictions and opened schools then. So seems like a great comparison to say a state who didn't lift restrictions or opened schools. But you know that already.
     
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    Also you get to miss the big Covid surge in Florida in July and present graphs that make it look like Florida has fewer deaths per million than California, when the opposite is true!
     
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  3. gator95

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    Not at all. Like someone said, the liberal posters on here are very smart and aren't stupid. It only makes sense when comparing how a state did versus another state with regard to lockdowns and schools being open to actually compare them when FL opened schools and opened the state. I know it looks awful for CA. Oh well.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Of course, just coincidental that you leave off the big spike for Florida from your graph!
     
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    How exactly do you figure that the US tracks Asia pretty tightly? Asia has 1/17 the deaths per million people...

    COVID-19 Data Explorer
     
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  6. gator95

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    Feel free to post one comparing CA and FL. You do realize CA has a 1542 Mortality per million and FL has a 1599 Mortality per Million right as of 2 days ago? And if you adjust for age difference(CA is 7th youngest state, FL is 5th oldest), FL is performing better than CA. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your Lockdown and school closure arguments.
     
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  7. 92gator

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    That was before I adjusted for population (first time on that site).

    Forget Asia though. What the hell did Africa do???
     
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    FORT MYERS, Fla. — Florida and California have had two completely different handlings of the pandemic.

    In Florida, we’ve never had a statewide mask mandate. In California, you’re required to wear one every time you leave your house.

    In Florida, we’ve had every business open at full capacity since September. In California, they just reopened indoor dining, churches, and gyms at 25% capacity.

    With opposite COVID-19 strategies, you’d maybe expect the pandemic’s outcome to be very different in each of these two states. If you look at cases per 100,000 people in each of the two, taking away population as a factor, they’re actually doing just about the same.

    The difference between Florida and California during the COVID-19 pandemic - NBC2 News

    If you're going to shut down business, suspend the @#$%@#$% Constitution, lock ppl up, prosecute them for breaking your arbitrarily imposed Covid protocols, etc., ..... seems like the onus ought to be on the proponent of the draconian measures to show why their justified.

    "...doing just about the same", simply does not cut it.

    Hell, let's follow Africa, before following California, New York, UK, etc....

    Africa must have done something incredibly right, to have tracked uber shut downer Asia.

    (Masker-nazi Cali can't even out do @#$@# it Florida, and we haven't even mentioned New York/Jersey...).
     
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  9. dangolegators

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    LOL, of course not. You had some reason that it was better to compare Sweden to Italy than to Norway. But no need to look it up, we all know it's nonsense.
     
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    It costs more to eat healthy due to the subsidies of the meat and dairy industries. And, education is a problem too as a result of government giving in to the lobbies.
     
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    It's what they didn't do -- test. The US with a population of 332 million, has conducted 429 million tests. Nigeria, with a population of 210 million, has conducted 1.8 million tests. With such a lack of testing, you can't really compare Africa to anything.
     
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    A completely inadequate statement. Australia is an industrialized country with numerous very large cities. The difference between the United States and Australia has nothing to do with the size of the total population and everything to do with a response that is different than all 50 states and Europe. It is those mitigation measures, and not national population that explain the difference between Australia and here. Your comparisons between states here and the US and Europe are worthless because none of the responses in any state here or in Europe were the same as the response in Australia. They eliminated the virus before reopening and were vigilant. We reopened and allowed international travel here. Big shock that we have virus and variants. The difference is in the pathetic response here.
     
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  13. gator95

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    Nope. You are wrong in what you said. Not surprising at all.
     
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    LOL. So funny. Still trying I see. It's why only hyper partisan people are trying to compare the US with Australia. Keep it up. You are the perfect example of what Maher was talking about. Thanks for confirming it.
     
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    Yeah?

    So ppl. didn't DIE due to Covid, because...

    ...they didn't get tested???

    Damn....helluva an argument to stop testing. :cool:
     
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    He also doesn’t count infections in Florida from travelers that were diagnosed in other states. Those go on the counts of other states and Florida doesn’t track them. Even as it encourages tourism. So the Numbers here do not tell the story. But. The narrative that lock downs don’t work is belied by countries where they did work. Where people stayed shut long enough to reopen safely. Which didn’t happen anywhere here.
     
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    Sure, if you don't want to find out that someone died of covid, just don't test. You and Trump have it all figured out.
     
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    Why are Africa's coronavirus numbers so surprisingly low?

    No, it's not just because of "underreporting." African countries really do seem to be experiencing lower levels of COVID-19 infections (and fatalities) than other countries around the world. The question is — why? Listen to DW's science podcast for a different angle on the coronavirus — every day from Germany.



    "Africa has not witnessed an exponential spread of COVID-19 as many initially feared," says Matshidiso Moeti, WHO regional director for Africa. "But the slower spread of infection in the region means we expect the pandemic to continue to smolder for some time, with occasional flare-ups.''

    According to the Africa Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, since the continent recorded its first case in February, nearly 1.5 million COVID-19 cases and 35,750 deaths have been reported in Africa as of this week (29 September).

    Evidence increasingly shows thatCOVID-19 cases involve mostly people aged over 60 years. In Africa, themedian age of the population is 19.4 years, with 60 percent of the population under the age of 25.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-africa-covid-revealed.html



    Demographics no doubt also play a role, Harding notes. The average age of the population on the African continent is between 19 and 21, compared with Europe and America, where the average age is the early 40s. There are also fewer people in their 70s and 80s, who tend to be the ones most likely to die from COVID-19. The virus seemed to be slow to arrive in Africa, and African governments by and large responded quickly and aggressively to the pandemic with lockdowns, “out of a sense of acute vulnerability,” Harding says.

    Demographics, preparedness may explain Africa's low COVID-19 fatality rates
    So age appears to be the great factor setting Africa apart...

    Which brings us back to Florida v. Cali.

    Florida has perhaps the oldest most vulnerable population in the Union...Cali one of the youngest, and least....and for all Cali's draconian neo-prog regs....

    They get to boast that, when adjusted for population, they're doing "...just. About. The. Same."

    Damn! Who the hell wants FREEDOM, when you could have super invasive nanny government turning your life upside down...and yielding the same damn results, as good ol' fashioned 'murician freedom??? :eek:o_O:eek:

    (...geez, we've been such primitive apes about this whole thing...).

    :monkey:
     
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  20. gator95

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    LOL. So funny. You are right. We should've shut down flight into FL from NY/NJ from the start. Mistake by DeSantis.
     
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