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Bianchi commentary: Politicians taking an unfair shot at UCF over Stadium Naming Rights

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gatorjjh, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. gatorjjh

    gatorjjh A Gator with a Glass half full attitude Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Irvine, Fl
    Mike Bianchi commentary in the Sentinel
    Politicians taking an unfair shot at UCF
    Now that state politicians have pressured UCF and FAU to kill lucrative football stadium and basketball arena naming-rights deals with Roofclaim.com, Pandora’s Box is now officially open for business and the state Legislature has begun its rapid descent down the slippery slope of corporate morality.

    If politicians are going to quash UCF’s lucrative 15-year, $35-million deal with Roofclaim.com simply because our state’s too-powerful insurance industry doesn’t like the way Roofclaim.com conducts its business, then these same politicians better start erasing stadium and arena names at the University of Florida, Florida State, USF and others across the Sunshine State’s corporately littered sporting landscape.

    As UCF athletics director Danny White candidly warned during a UCF Foundation board meeting in December when he was told a deal with Roofclaim.com might be unpopular with powerful politicians who are beholden to the insurance industry, “You could scrutinize every single one of our corporate sponsors and probably find something politically wrong with them [starting with] Nike and the sweatshops. … If we vote this [Roofclaim.com deal] down — $35 million is the third- or fourth-largest stadium naming deal in the history of college football; this is a really big deal and gives us a huge pop as a national brand in college football circles — if we decide we don’t want to do this, then the next corporate partner is probably going to have some political issue as well.”

    UCF’s exterminated deal with Roofclaim.com was the impetus for a controversial power grab, er, bill introduced in Tallahassee last month that would give the Legislature veto power over which companies public universities can accept money from and what name they can put on their sports venues. That’s right, politicians who accept campaign contributions from some of the scummiest individuals, businesses and organizations you can possibly imagine are now trying to tell the Gators, ‘Noles and Knights what names they can put on their football and basketball venues, their softball stadiums and their swimming pools.

    If Fine and his fellow lawmakers in Tallahassee are going to keep Roofclaim.com from putting its name on UCF’s football stadium, perhaps they should drive a couple of miles and start sandblasting the name “Doak Campbell” off FSU’s football stadium. If we’re getting rid of stadium names that are politically unpopular, a quick Google search of good ol’ boy Doak will tell you he was a popular FSU president in the 1940s and ’50s who strongly opposed allowing African-American students into FSU.
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  2. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Why does he pull UF into this? I assume down in the article he has something politically incorrect to say about Ben Hill Griffin - but I’m not clicking to find out. Regardless, it’s a stupid argument and solely an attempt to kiss up to his UCF fan base since they’ve got nothing else to talk about
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  3. gatorpower

    gatorpower GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    Which college football circles does he speak of?
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  4. Bushmaster

    Bushmaster GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    As much as UCF irritates me with their 2017 NC claim, they are 100% right on this one.
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  5. gaterzfan

    gaterzfan GC Legend

    Feb 6, 2020
    Isn't there a real difference between a university naming their football stadium and field after an alum, private booster, former president, coach, or football player/alum and selling the naming rights to a commercial enterprise likely with no real ties to the school?

    Are the founders of roof claim UCF alums?
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  6. formerg8er

    formerg8er GC Legend

    May 24, 2007
    Tampa, FL
    There has to be some scrutiny on having any stadium named after a company, especially a tax payer funded entity. For example: Bang Bros offered $10Mil to have their name on the Heat Stadium. The Heat Stadium is officially owned by the County so having Bang Bros as your stadium name wasn't going to fly. What if Bang Bros offered $100Mil to have their name on the UCF stadium? At some point the dollars and bidding wars can't surpass common sense and due diligence.
    Porn site says it has submitted naming rights bid for Miami arena
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  7. CHFG8R

    CHFG8R GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 24, 2007
    St. Augustine, FL
    Complete baloney. Bang Bros clearly crosses a line that a roofing contractor doesn't. It is a BS law, especially when you consider the motives behind it (Hint: Has nothing to do with protecting your kids from Bang Bros).
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  8. GatorDoc74

    GatorDoc74 Premium Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Slightly off topic, but related- an argument that has been made in other states (not in Florida -yet) that if you use a stadium that was partially funded by the taxpayers, the taxpayers should get an equivalent portion of the naming rights money. This applies primarily to the pros, but could apply to colleges as well.

    Why should the Bucs or the Dolphins or the Heat get 100% of the naming rights money when the taxpayers paid for more than 50% of the stadium or arena being named?
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  9. GatorDoc74

    GatorDoc74 Premium Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Roofclaim.com was rejected not for political correctness, but for good old fashioned political reasons. They had been using a unique Florida assignment-of-benefits law to gouge insurance companies when billing for minor or unnecessary roof repairs - or at least the legislature and the insurance companies felt that was the case.

    So this flap is all about money and political revenge. It may upset Bianchi, but it seems like politics-as-usual in Florida.
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  10. traveling gator

    traveling gator Freshman

    Mar 7, 2017
    That's a good chunk of money considering most of us have never paid for any of their movies. The free trailer online is always good enough for me. "Need a lift?"
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  11. atlantagator86

    atlantagator86 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    Alpharetta, GA
    I'm not sure of the details, but I think it probably goes further than that. It's more of a scam.

    I don't know what this particular company in question does, but there are a lot of issues here in Georgia with the roofing companies scamming the insurance companies. The go door to door after storms and file claims for homeowners to have entire roofs replaced that had little to no damage.

    About 10 years ago, not only did one of these companies get my insurance to pay for a roof repair, but a year later they got the shingle company to pay them to have it replaced again because of a shingle recall. It didn't cost me anything, but some of these companies are scamming the insurance companies.
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  12. Claygator

    Claygator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 11, 2007
    That's the problem. After hurricane Irma abuses by contractors, typically roofing contractors, was rampant. The contractors would have homeowners assign their right to the insurance proceeds to the contractor, who promised to handle their claim for them. Unfortunately, in all too many cases, the contractors had arrangements with cheesy law firms, who filed thousands of suits because they were entitled to fees from the insurance company. In many cases, even if the homeowner wanted to settle and resolve the claim, the contractor refused, because they wanted more money, and their lawyer needed to get paid. In quite a few cases, the contractors did no work other than refer the case to a lawyer, and waited until the lawsuit was resolved and they and their lawyer were paid, to do any work. If a homeowner tried to go to another contractor to get their roof repaired, they would get sued by the contractor to whom they had assigned benefits. Once an assignment of benefits was executed, the insurance company was obligated to deal with the contractor and make payment to them. In sum, the homeowner lost all control over the claim and repairs to their house. It was a very large and costly problem.

    While I am not familiar with Roofclaim.com particularly, their name tells me pretty much all I need to know. And the fact that they can contribute $35 million to UCF says they did very, very well with their claims. While insurance companies have more than their fair share of warts, they are right on this issue, because they simply spread the risk to all policyholders through increased premiums, which means it is their insureds who ultimately take it in the shorts. The problem was severe enough to have motivated the legislature to pass legislation to address the assignment of benefits abuses.

    While I could care less what they name the UCF stadium, it is notable that Bianchi leaves out what the real reason is for the flap over naming rights.

    The legislature has passed legislation to deal with the abuses present in assignment of benefits claims, so hopefully,
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  13. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    Leave if the bullet-head to conflate two very different things... Like financial deals like sponsorships with people that donated millions of dollars to a University that later put said donor's names on the side of a building because of their generosity.

    His article makes him look foolish.
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  14. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 8, 2007
    Yeah ... my thoughts exactly. They find people with old roofs that need to be replaced anyway, but file a claim that a recent storm damaged the roof. It's been going on for a while.
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  15. LLCoolJ94

    LLCoolJ94 GC Hall of Fame

    Probably a reference to the ExactTech Arena.
  16. WhattaGator

    WhattaGator "Where's The Beef"?? (Or the crabcakes, etc.)... VIP Member "Cook Shack Chef"

    I would think that roofclaim.com was one of the larger scam contracting companies after several storms blew through Florida...Matthew and Irma more recently...
    Just their name, to which people who were affected by the hurricanes, and, in their sort of despair, (because EVERY local contractor would have already had more work than they could handle), so they, in desperation, call or ermail roofclaim.com, and the $$$ come pouring in for a company who is basically a huge contractor and insurance filing company....They simply farm out the work to sub-contractors, and they file the inflated claims.

    That had to leave a very bad taste, not only in the people who got basically scammed, but also to the politicians, because their phones must have been ringing off the hook with complaiints from their constituents.

    Now, <sigh>....on to my main point.....
    After Bianchi wrote that "fluff" article about how good the Gators and Dan Mullen are going to be in 2020, I posted a comment, predicting that it couldn't last long, and that he would be very quickly find a way to write about UCF,, either defending them, pumping them up, and finding as way to put a "dig" into UF.....and.......

    It happened even sooner than I thought......Bianchi had no reason to go after UF, (or the other schools, for that matter)...he's just a bit pissed that his "little darlings" got snubbed...
    The interesting thing is....UCF's stadium already has a brand sponsor....it's called "Spectrum Stadium" for a reason....Danny White's just puffing out his caved chest, trying to get attention again, and Bianchi was right there to provide it.

    After thinking about it...the legislators couldn't allow that deal.....after all ...roofclaim.com was most likely screwing folks more than "Bang Bros". :)
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  17. jimmyc41

    jimmyc41 Freshman

    Nov 18, 2018
    Of course D. White wanted to partner with Roofclaim.com for stadium naming rights. They are both into fraudulent claims, after all.

    As for Mikey, I agree with Whattagator to some extent. He's basically a shill for all things UCF. Don't get me wrong, I'm not like others in here that abhor everything he writes. He is just ultra-annoying when it comes to UCF.
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  18. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    It is an issue in my area as well, I've had no less than a dozens guys knock on my door looking to "get me a new roof" mind you my roof was older but didn't have a lick of damage. While it may be tempting too "get a free roof" we all pay in long run with increased rates, more detailed inspections, and insurance companies forcing people to replace roofs that really didn't need to be replaced.
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  19. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    Nov 11, 2014
    He's probably talking about Exactech Arena at UF.
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  20. gatorjjh

    gatorjjh A Gator with a Glass half full attitude Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Irvine, Fl
    I don't want the Florida legislature telling UF who they can name a facility after or for, I expect others feel the same about their school. Is the roofing company a choice I would make, probably not but if the UCF crowd is Ok with it who cares
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