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Best MLB player to never win a World Series ring

Discussion in 'Diamond Gators' started by GatorLurker, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker VIP Member

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    My son and I were watching some baseball this evening and this topic came up. He said Ted Williams and I countered with Ty Cobb. And I said that Ken Griffey Jr and Ernie Banks had to be in the conversation, but really I think it is between Teddy Ballgame and The Georgia Peach. It is hard to make a strong case of one over the other. Both were legends of the game and neither ever were on a championship team.

    Maybe the best pitcher ever without a ring is Juan Marichal, but it could be Early Wynn. I did have to check if Walter Johnson ever got a ring and he did.
     
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  2. gatorjjh

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    Early was a piece a work, he and Newcomb went to the same real estate school, the plate is mine and I also own a third of the batters' box, defend yourself :)
     
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  3. GatorLurker

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    Old school.

    I saw live a pitching match-up between Fernando Valenzuela and Mario Soto at Riverfront. Lots of batters hit the dirt.
     
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  4. gatorjjh

    gatorjjh A Gator with a Glass half full attitude Moderator VIP Member

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    survival of the quickest
     
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  5. GatorLurker

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    Or be a bad ass like Willie Horton. Throwing inside to him might be the last pitch you ever threw.

    Ah, the good old days.
     
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  6. gatorjjh

    gatorjjh A Gator with a Glass half full attitude Moderator VIP Member

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    If you decide to go to practice, send me a pm, Im going to try to get to at least tomorrow and 2 nextweek
     
  7. 74nole

    74nole GC Hall of Fame

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    Lurk—

    I’d have to agree, my top two would be Ted Williams and Ty Cobb—if my list was three, then it would have to be Ken Griffey Jr—
    Pitching wise, tough to argue against either Juan Marichal or Early Wynn—but my list for this would also have to include Nolan Ryan—
     
  8. GatorLurker

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    Wasn't Ryan on the 1969 Mets?
     
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  9. 74nole

    74nole GC Hall of Fame

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    Well, I think you’re right—not sure when they traded him—I googled MLB pitchers WS and didn’t see his name—
     
  10. GatorLurker

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    He earned the save in Game 3 for his only World Series appearance.
     
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  11. gatorcal

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    As much as I hate to, I'd have to throw Barry Bonds into the mix. My least favorite player of all time, but the guy was good, with or without the juice.
     
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    I am biased but Craig Biggio makes my top 10.

    Williams is number 1 in my eyes. Average and power, incredible.
     
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  13. gatorfan5220

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    Who was the better defensive player - Cobb or Williams?
     
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    It was just with.
     
  15. 74nole

    74nole GC Hall of Fame

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    The thing is—if there is with the juice, then at least IMHO, you have also tainted everything that you did without the juice because you have taken away the possibility of the dream of “What if??”
     
  16. gatorcal

    gatorcal GC Legend

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    Nah, he won 3 MVP awards at 185. I can't believe I'm defending the guy, but he was a stud even before he started juicing.

    Oh, I agree that it's all tainted. I hope he never sniffs the HOF. I was just throwing his name in the ring because he was a great player (as well as a cheat and an all around bad guy from what everyone says).
     
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  17. GatorLurker

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    Craig was an awesome player that never got a ring.
     
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    Tony Gwynn belongs in this argument. 8 batting titles in 20 seasons, 5 Gold Gloves, 3141 hits. No player has ever earned more love from his fans. No telling how many chances he passed up to go grab a ring and a bigger payday somewhere else.
     
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  19. GatorLurker

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    I have the same problem with Tony Gwynn that I have with Rod Carew. Neither one was willing to hit behind a runner to absorb an out and help the team and neither one really was willing to take a walk when they might get a hit. They were all about the batting average.

    In On Base Percentage Carew is #88 all-time and Gwynn in #111 all-time.

    John Kruk is #73 all-time.

    Think about that.
     
  20. Spurffelbow833

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    John Kruk won a World Series, so he isn't in the argument.

    Nope, damn, he didn't win. I stand corrected there.