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Bernie rolling into the SC Primary - Who wins the Democrat nomination?

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_fever, Feb 20, 2020.

  1. gatorpa

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    Which is what will help Bloomberg with the middle ground.... that's where elections are won and lost. Problem is if Bloomberg gets the Nomination it very well may piss off the socialist arm of the Democratic party and they may stay home.
    Which would not bode well for the Dems.
     
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  2. gatorpa

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    I don't know the details of the NDA's but it is very common to pay off people sometime even if there is nothing done wrong.

    We had a former employee who my boss did everything for, let her work from home because she was a whack job really, even bought her new teeth(not part of the benefit package). When she had one of her crazed outbursts and quit they accepted her resignation. She then wanted to take it back they didn't let her. She then sued for not being paid OT etc, etc. Made up fake "work logs" stole company laptop, etc. Boss had to hire an attorney who flat out said after the depo we will crush them in court however its gonna cost you 100k for a trial, pay her the 10k and be done with it.
     
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  3. VAg8r1

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    Interestingly, virtually every employee who works for the Trump organization is required to sign an NDA. Raises the issue of what is Trump trying to hide.
     
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  4. Distant Gator

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    So in your book someone is dumb for thinking a 37 year old small town mayor doesn't have the experience to be the most powerful man in the world?
    Let him get some more experience- governor, senator, even House rep- and some age before ascending to POTUS.
    Or is that too much to ask in this "I want it all, and I want it NOW" age? Apparently so.

    I think his "charisma" has a blinding affect, and can cause other otherwise-intelligent people to leave their brains by the wayside.
    And his sexual orientation then blinds them further.

    Oh-and Warren is not brilliant. See her DNA test.
     
  5. VAg8r1

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    Edit: In response to the "funny" and Come on man" comments of my previous post
    ‘Everyone signed one’: Trump is aggressive in his use of nondisclosure agreements, even in government

    Sworn To Secrecy: Trump's History Of Using Nondisclosure Agreements

    Trump stresses legal actions over confidentiality in wake of Westerhout firing

    Why the Trump family's secrets will remain hidden forever
     
  6. gatordavisl

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    No. I didn't write that and I didn't suggest it. To your point, though, Buttigieg has more governance experience than Trump did in 2016.
    I like a well-spoken, intelligent leader, who has a realistic vision for America. I also like the fact he served his country. Considering the other options, all of which I feel are poor, I refuse to accept that my support for Buttigieg is a matter of leaving my brains at the door. I don't know about Warren's DNA test. How is it related to intelligence? No matter, I've got little faith in the ability of a standardized test to measure one's brilliance.
     
  7. sierragator

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    the cynical response to the op is that it does not matter as the fix is in.
     
  8. gator_fever

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    The establishment/media can try to push for certain results but I think 2016 and Bernie so far this election year show they can only do so much. I guess if they and Bloomberg's bankroll could somehow get him the most delegates going into the convention it would show they still have more pull than I realized.
     
  9. nobbqsauce

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    So Bloomberg literally buys his way in to the democratic presidential debatea. Democrats change the rules foe him.
    And now some are working hard behind the scenes to secure his nomination 8n a brokered convention....in fear that bernie wins the popular vote.
    Does anyone else see anything hypocritical about this?
     
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  10. gator_fever

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  11. nobbqsauce

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    Wow...that was terrible.
     
  12. gator_fever

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  13. gator_lawyer

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    Couldn't disagree more on Pete. I think he's robotic and inauthentic. Yeah, he's eloquent, but he talks in circles and brings little to the table in terms of ideas. The fact that Buttigieg has been given legitimacy while far more impressive people were hounded out of the race speaks to the pervasiveness of white privilege in the media and in the Democratic Party. We need to get our house in order too.
     
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  14. duchen

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    Caucuses are nonsense. They draw people with noting better to do than sit around all day. Sanders won the caucuses last time, even in states where Hilary won primaries. So far, two caucuses and a small state neighboring Sanders’ state. With Dem allocation system of delegates, Pete had the lead going into today. This race is just starting. Especially with primaries and Super Tuesday coming up. Too early to make any judgments, and do not fall for the Russian propaganda or click bait that Bernie has it won.
     
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  15. gator_fever

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    CNN pushing the Russia aiding Bernie stuff...
     
  16. duchen

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    No. The Dems changed the rules on state voter allocation. And there are no super delegates unless there is a second vote. The way it is now with so many candidates, there is little likelihood as the results have gone so far that the race will be decided on a first ballot unless someone takes it over. Because the first round of votes will be predetermined. There cannot be a deadlock unless the primary and caucus votes decide it. Your post is right out of Russian falsehoods.
     
  17. duchen

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    The Russians are. And Sanders acknowledged it yesterday. Really so that they can pick a candidate that Trump can call names. But, keep posting the Russian active measures here because it is helpful to know what they are.
     
  18. gator_fever

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    Well if you believe all that nonsense if Trump tweets out the morning of the SC primary that he hears a lot of Reps will be voting for their favorite democrat today Biden will have a hard time holding Bernie off.
     
  19. duchen

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    Not interested in the open primaries either. For this reason. GOP voters voting just to push the candidate that Trump, Putin and the GOP want Trump to run against. A repeat of 1972 when Nixon dirty trixters attacked other Dems to push McGovern. GOP I’m SC is within the rules and open primary is stupid for this reason. But, it last open the GOP playbook and shows how utterly bankrupt they the GOP is. Super Tuesday will shape this, which is why Bloomberg approached the race line he did. Sanders is going to lock up the vote on the Dem left. The question is who, if anyone, wins the more moderate votes from the middle. These first 5 states are nonsense.
     
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  20. gator_fever

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    Bernie will have the most delegates from the actual voters going into that convention almost guaranteed if he wins SC.

    We saw how good Bloomberg's political instincts were wanting to jump in the debates with the 2 females still in it.
     
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