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Austin, Texas Policing Crisis

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatorplank, Mar 4, 2023.

  1. gatorplank

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    Texas’ woke capital, Austin, is in the midst of a policing crisis with over 300 vacancies and cops quitting because they feel disrespected, multiple sources tell The Post.

    “We’re right there with Portland and Seattle and San Francisco as being one of those places where if you’re at all conservative or in law enforcement, it’s become a hostile place,” Lt. Brian Moon, who retired last month, told The Post of the city he protected for 23 years.

    Another 77 officers are expected to retire before the end of March — on top of 264 existing vacancies, according to the Austin Police Association.

    Austin Police Department’s staffing is so bad, 911 calls are being redirected to the 311 non-emergency number because there aren’t enough cops to solve crimes.

    Cops quit woke Austin, TX, in droves (nypost.com)


    It looks like liberal cities in conservative states are not immune. I wonder if this would ever happen in Gainesville?
     
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  2. WarDamnGator

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    Good for Austin. There is nothing more dangerous to citizens and costly to tax payers than a cop that loses his shit because he feels "disrespected". To paraphrase the Trumpsters ... fudge your feelings.
     
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  3. oragator1

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    While I don’t doubt Austin has some problems, any supposed news article that has woke in the first sentence disqualifies itself.
     
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  4. philnotfil

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    All kinds of stuff going on in Austin. Came across this while reading about Austin's police shortage (the staffing has been a growing issue since they closed the police academy in 2020, and the first new class just went through last year, the shortage in police officers matches the lack of new officers produced locally during the time the academy was closed). FPL would be so proud.

    Petition imitating the Austin Police Oversight Act may appear on the May ballot

    Austin voters may face two nearly identical propositions concerning police oversight in May. Despite having the same name, one of these propositions would increase oversight while the other intends to maintain the status quo.

    The Austin City Council put the Austin Police Oversight Act — the proposition that would increase oversight — on the upcoming May ballot in September after Equity Action, an Austin based non-profit, reached the 20,000 signature minimum on their petition over the summer. Chris Harris, the board president of Equity Action, said he noticed a petition imitating the act in November.

    “The name is identical,” Harris said. “The caption, which is what will appear on the ballot, is nearly identical. But once you dive into the content, it actually would set up a far weaker system of oversight than our ordinance and in some ways, even weaker than today’s very weak system of police oversight.”

    Voters for Oversight and Police Accountability turned in the petition to the Austin city clerk on Dec. 19. It is unclear what group is behind Voters for Oversight and Police Accountability, but Harris said canvassers for the petition falsely claimed to be members of Equity Action.
     
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  5. gatorplank

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    The defunded Austin, Texas, police department launched a new non-emergency online reporting system on Thursday that is operated with artificial intelligence, or AI.

    In an announcement on Thursday, the Austin Police Department (APD) said it partnered with Versaterm Public Safety’s Case Service to launch the new reporting software that communicates with the community through voice, mobile, web and text messaging, instantaneously.

    As it communicates with the public, the AI asks questions and fills out a report that provides "key information" to the department within hours, like an officer wrote it up.

    Some of the types of reports the interface accepts include minor assaults, threats other than domestic violence, burglary not involving arson, theft unless it involves prescriptions, firearms, explosives, vehicle license plates and vehicles, and lost or missing property.


    Austin Police Department turns to AI as staffing crisis looms | Fox News

    So, it is getting so bad that computers are filing police reports rather than police officers. That is not good.
     
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  6. gatorplank

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  7. mdgator05

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    Wait, so they defunded the police but still have police? So in what way did they "defund" them?
     
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  8. PITBOSS

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    yep that was unfortunate. Obviously not unbiased.
     
  9. gatorplank

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    Well you can call 911, but your 911 call will likely be rerouted to 311. You can file a police report, but you will probably be talking to a robot because they likely don't have enough staff for a human being to take down your police report. You might be hoping detectives can bring justice for your son or daughter who was killed, but they likely are out in the field working as police because they don't have enough people willing to work to staff a police department. Sounds like a great place to live now doesn't it?
     
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  10. philnotfil

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    An addition to the timeline- 3 years they shut down their police academy and the police force started decreasing in size as they were having to recruit more officers from out of the city and out of the state.
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    That doesn't really answer the question I asked now does it? Want to try again?
     
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    Bug Tussle NC
    Must be a volunteer force
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    BTW, name a city of more than 200,000 people in Texas, and I will provide an article talking about their police shortage, likely dating back years. Any city. I'll start with known liberal hotbed, Amarillo.

    The Amarillo Police Department is 34 officers short
     
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  14. stingbb

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    Yes but it is more costly when a criminal loses his or her shit. Much more costly.
     
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    caveat: I acknowledge that I am using Forbes data based conclusions rather than pseudo-intellectualism, feelings & meta-narratives

    Report Ranks America’s 15 Safest (And Most Dangerous) Cities For 2023
    15 Safest Large Cities in the US (with a population over 300,000)


    1. Honolulu, Hawaii
    2. Virginia Beach, Virginia
    3. Henderson, Nevada
    4. El Paso, Texas
    5. New York City
    6. San Diego, California
    7. Mesa, Arizona
    8. Charlotte, North Carolina
    9. San Jose, California
    10. Boston, Massachusetts
    11. Raleigh, North Carolina
    12. Arlington, Texas
    13. Santa Ana, California
    14. Omaha, Nebraska
    15. Austin, Texas
     
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  16. gatorplank

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    That was a month ago. Austin is having staffing issues now. When you do not have enough police, and they start quitting in droves, that data can change very quickly. And that sounds like what is taking place right now. It sounds like the alarm bells are starting to be rung by those in the police department.

    We might have to have to wait for the 2024 reports to get the real data of what is happening on the ground in Austin right now. The fact that Austin came out and publicly announced raises for police officers is the type of desperation move we have seen in the past in cities where conditions have devolved with the police and crime.
     
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    This list has New York City and El Paso on it. Can’t tell if this list is serious.
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    El Paso has long had one of the lowest murder rates in the entire country (it has often been the lowest in Texas, although the latest data had them surpassed by that horribly dangerous...Austin) and New York is quite safe.
     
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  19. docspor

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    strangely silent on Gaetz’s comment just yesterday about defunding law enforcement nationally. You know something actually relevant to your life. Now who’s peddling meta narratives :emoji_laughing:
     
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  20. gatorplank

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    I think there is more to it than just a general shortage. The fact that police officers are flocking to Florida shows they care about being supported by their local and state governments. Positive morale is a factor involved in police officer working conditions.

    Cops are moving to Florida, and it's not just for the sunshine (newsnationnow.com)