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Are businesses really trying to hire?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Oct 20, 2021.

  1. gatorpa

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    Every owner of a business I know is working more to pick up the slack due to not enough staff.
     
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  2. buckeyegator

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    Here is a thought, make Nancy, AOC and the squad work a day or two and see how the pay to stay at home really affects small businesses, don't think they could survive.
     
  3. mdgator05

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    Oh, today is an AOC is too good to work day, not make fun of her for working as a bartender day. Interesting.
     
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  4. wgbgator

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    You really do have a thing for forcing people to work, I've lost count the number of times you've made this sort of comment
     
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  5. tarponbro

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    It's going to be difficult to hire women who have young children for $11-12 per hour since the average cost of day care is $300 or more per week, especially if the husband has a decent job.
     
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  6. buckeyegator

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    so you would rather they sit on the rear ends and you pay their unemployement, give me some of that money, oh wait, i have a job, my bad.
     
  7. tarponbro

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    I like this but I'm not sure about making the contracts for a certain amount of months. There are immigrants on work visas who work unti a project is finished, whether it takes 2 months or a few years. The workers can also bring their families. I know a few immigrants who have done this. Also, I believe some farm workers stay here year round and go from place to place depending on what season it is. Make sure the employers take taxes out too. Maybe part of the withholding would go to medical expenses if the employee needs medical help.
     
  8. slightlyskeptic

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    So what does that have to do with the current labor shortage? That's always been the case.
     
  9. philnotfil

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    If they quit their jobs (and that is where most of the unemployed are from), then they aren't eligible for unemployment.
     
  10. buckeyegator

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    people who lost their jobs from the pandemic and are offered them back but refuse should not get, imo, unemployement or stimulus money. they choose not to work when a job is there.
     
  11. WC53

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    ThinkI mentioned before but a relative manages civil infrastructure crews. 18 an hour with benefits for entry labor. Just show up. Most applicants are folks fired from last 8 jobs and he thinks just submitting to stay on unemployment. And they say they want 25 an hour to start.

    he is having big trouble to get cdl drivers to come back. 6 large dumps sitting in yard unused. They normally higher out to other smaller firms when not needed. Getting hounded by other companies for fill transport, but zero drivers.
     
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  12. tarponbro

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    Women are caring for their children instead of going back to work, especially in lower paid jobs. If you work 40 hours per week at $10 per hour and you're paying $300 or more per week for child care you have very little or no money left over after you pay for child care. In this instance women are deciding to stay home and raise their children rather than go to work and give all of their wages to daycare.
     
  13. gator7_5

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    Women making 11 an hour and needing to work should have less children. The birth rate is highest among the lowest earners. That needs to change. It's logically backwards.
     
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  14. buckeyegator

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    so now making no money is better than before?
     
  15. tarponbro

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    In many instances they got other jobs rather than going back to the crappy job they worked before. I don't think the current employment situation is due to workers being lazy but instead they're tired of working at places where they're treated like crap. I think a lot of this is due to the way some employees were treated before they were unemployed and due to the bad reputations their former bosses made for themselves it's going to take a good while for the employers to change their images. The longer and/or more they resist changing their practices the longer it will take for them to hire enough employees for their businesses.
     
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  16. tarponbro

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    It looks like your relative will have to increase wages and benefits to get fully staffed. He or she should quit complaining and do something constructive to solve this problem. BTW, I think some people have the idea that there's some large amount of CDL drivers who don't want to work. If there are it might be due to low wages, especially in regards to Class B drivers. In Florida a lot of them don't get paid diddly squat. $12-15 per hour for a job that's necessary for many businesses to function is almost a joke. Employers have got themselves in the situation they're in because they've taken advantage of employees by paying them as little as they could with few or no benefits.
     
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  17. buckeyegator

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    it is amazing that it is almost always the fault of the boss, or the job stunk, never that maybe,just maybe alot of them were sorry employees looking for an excuse.
     
  18. mutz87

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    The injustice of a restaurant/s owner doing some manual labor and cooking some food in his own restaurants. It ain't right!
     
  19. WC53

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    Jeebus,
    Read entry level labor jobs. Healthcare, sick and vacation.
    The CDL, crane operators, trades, etc make way, way more money.
     
  20. mutz87

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    A normal distribution from sorry employees to stellar ones & from sorry bosses/biz owners to stellar ones would suggest quite a few on both sides, i.e. about 50% at or below average, 50% at or above average.