Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by sjgator, Jun 19, 2021.
Great coaching staffs take elite, can't-miss talent like Arch Manning first and then adjust the offense to their strengths later. For example, Bama is about to hand the keys over to a dual-threat QB right after they had a prototype dropback QB.
Maybe, good coaches do adapt to change, 2008 Saban would foam at the mouth at what 2020 Saban did on offense.
I don't think it would have made a difference with that Defense, Arkansas ran up 35 points and nearly 460 yards of O with only 21 mins of TOP.
Fix the D and O line, let the O keep churning.
When we were a pass only team, one dimensional team?
I wonder how much the depth in our QB room impacts his recruitment. I have to assume he wants to come in and start right away for 3-4 years. Not that he couldn't potentially beat them out there would be a lot of experience in front of him (as of now) and Mullen seems to put weight on that
None. First off, Mullen doesn’t appear to be recruiting him. Secondly, he knows he would start no later than his second year in the program.
I can see why he wouldn’t want to come to UF. The Gators will have fully evolved into a team that depends on the running ability of the QB. That could be a major issue for his extended family. Just because he can be a running threat in college doesn’t mean he or his family want him to be.
Watched a few clips and there’s no question about his athleticism. He’s a willing runner who throws some of his best passes in full stride and he’s very elusive in the pocket.
Pro Style vs Dual Threat is often a very arbitrary distinction. Franks’ was both at different points in his recruitment. Del Rio was classified as Pro Style in spite of his obvious running ability. Corral too, even though his combine numbers were almost identical to EJ’s and he was a dangerous runner on read-option plays.
My guess is that there has been communication between Mullen and the Manning’s about how he would be used at UF. Mullen was probably honest about his expectations and the Manning’s balked at Arch getting double digit carries per game. They may have also pointed out UF’s recent history with QB injuries.
Correct, he's described as "Pro-style" and that's why I said Mullen "prefers" to recruit dual-threat as it is not an absolute. Maybe Mullen views him as a "project" with a Trask-type upside.
Do you mean the best QB in OUR class or in the country? He's listed as a 3*.
Nick Evers is a composite 4* in the 2022 class. We don't have a 2023 yet.
Nick Evers, Flower Mound, Quarterback
I’m saying Manning is the best qb in the class, theoretically and Mullen would take him if he had no legs at all. We know what Mullen leans towards but passing is far more important.
Im thinking Archie and Peyton and Eli would consider it heresy for a Manning to be a Gator - people can try and blame that on Mullen but they might as well blame Grantham for it
I'm not sure they would care all that much. I'm sure they have preferences, but I would think they would want him to go where they think he will individually be put in the best situation.
He is currently in Athens, when is his trip to Gainesville?
Yep, not gonna happen. Daddy probably still pissed about all those ass whooping but just saying as in the type of player Mullen may consider.
Daddy? You talking about Cooper?
Nah, Peyton and Eli’s daddy. We beat poor Peyton every time. Maybe the whole family doesn’t like UF. Maybe they don’t give a crap, who knows.
Whenever the SEC team he suits up for plays UF in Gainesville.
I seriously doubt there's an issue about their personal history with UF. It's about the program and coaching now.
So, then, if Arch were to head to Ole Miss where his grandfather Archie was a legend, his Uncle Eli played, and his dad Cooper was also committed before he fell ill, it would be because the family prefers Lane Kiffin over Dan Mullen? I know that's not a very likely landing spot for him with his talent, but, it's certainly an option.