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Apparently Russia is bad, but Qatar is good.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by JerseyGator01, Aug 11, 2018.

  1. JerseyGator01

    JerseyGator01 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 10, 2007
  2. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    They invest wisely. So what has Menendez done for Qatar lately?
  3. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    maybe this will help

    Crickets dictionary definition | crickets defined
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    PITBOSS GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 13, 2007
    What is meant by “apparently russia is bad” in the title?
  5. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    Nov 25, 2017
    I am not going to address the legal distinctions applicable. What the link in the OP reports is legal, but wrong, if the aide is registered.

    I am going to address the comment about crickets. There are only "crickets" because you are not listening. Here is the first link.

    How the Trump family sold U.S. foreign policy to the highest bidder | Will Bunch

    Trump stunned his own foreign policy team — including then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Defense Secretary James Mattis — when he tweeted that Qatar is a sponsor of terrorism and seemingly endorsed an economic and political blockage of the tiny, oil-rich nation organized and led by two powerful neighbors, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, or UAE.

    Not long before Team Trump switched gears on Qatar, key officials from the emirate had met with Charles Kushner — father of Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared, who’s in charge of Trump’s Middle East portfolio — to discuss a massive Qatar-funded bailout of 666 Fifth Ave., the debt-laden Manhattan skyscraper that was threatening to sink the Kushner family real estate empire. But the Qataris rejected the deal — just weeks before the policy about-face. Whatever actually happened, the appearance was simply awful.

    It also seems not to have been the full story. This weekend, the New York Times published a stunning report about a plan floated by a longtime emissary for the Saudis and the UAE in early August 2016, when Trump had just grabbed the GOP nomination but faced an uphill campaign against Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump Jr., aide Stephen Miller and Erik Prince, founder of the notorious mercenary outfit once know as Blackwater, listened intently as the emissary offered Team Trump millions of dollars in assistance, including a covert social-media campaign, to help Trump win that would be run by a former Israeli spy who specializes in psychological warfare, or psywar.

    But like a lot of Trump scandals, the smoke from any alleged fire was clearly visible. Nader became a Trump ally who met frequently with key players like then-national security adviser (and future felon) Michael Flynn. He also, according to the Times, later made a large payment to the ex-spy Joel Zamel, as much as $2 million. After Trump was elected, Erik Prince attended a then-secret meeting in the Seychelles believed to have been brokered by UAE to cement ties with Vladimir Putin’s Russia. After Trump became president, American foreign policy has been almost unwaveringly consistent in fighting for the foreign policy goals of nations believed to have supported his 2016 election: Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE — most notably with Trump’s rejection of the Iran nuclear deal that is seriously destabilizing the Middle East. These dealings increasingly appear to have benefited the Trumps and Kushners not just politically but financially — even as they are not helpful, and even counterproductive at times, to the American people whom Trump was allegedly elected to represent.
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  6. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    Nov 25, 2017
    Here is another link about the "crickets" in connection with Qatar, and it directly relates to information in the Steele memos-- created before the election-- about the sale 0d 20% of Rosneft. Which happened. And, the Qataris showed up at Trump Tower. Steele got it right. The deal he predicted that was discussed during Page's trip actually happened. So, his intelligence was proven right.

    Of course, since Page allegedly brokered the Rosneft sale, given what Steele said, one can see why Trump is upset that someone who had left his campaign was wiretapped in a a FISA warrant.

    Crickets are awfully loud in the dark.

    Michael Cohen Asked Qatari Investor For 'Millions' To Give Trump Family At Tower Meet, Explosive Report Claims

    “Mr. Al-Rumaihi was at Trump Tower on December 12, 2016… in his then role as head of Qatar Investments, an internal division of QIA, to accompany the Qatari delegation that was meeting with Trump transition officials on that date,” the company said in a statement to CNN. “He did not participate in any meetings with Michael Flynn, and his involvement in the meetings on that date was limited.”

    But Al-Rumaihi’s meeting with Cohen and other Trump transition officials has raised suspicions because it came just two days after the QIA purchased billions of dollars worth of shares in the state-run Russian oil company Rosneft. At least some of the shares in that sale — in which Rosneft sold 19.5 percent of the company — ended up with an unidentified investment group based in the Cayman Islands, where laws allow investors and company officials to remain anonymous. Read the Inquisitr‘s coverage of the Rosneft deal from January of 2017 at this link.

    According to the Christopher Steele “dossier,” a collection of private intelligence reports by a former British spy and Russia expert Steele which alleges deep ties between Trump and Russia, the Rosneft deal was arranged as a payoff to Trump, who would then be expected to lift sanctions on Russia upon assuming office in January of 2017.

    The Rosneft sale was finalized with QIA on December 10, 2016, according to a Reuters report. Two days later, Al-Rumaihi showed up at Trump Tower where he met with Michael Cohen and others. Whether he met with Trump himself is not yet clear, though the spokesperson for Al-Rumaihi’s company did not specify who attended the meetings other than Cohen,
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  7. fastsix

    fastsix Premium Member

    Apr 11, 2007
    So not so much crickets, but more like cicadas.
  8. Rocinante

    Rocinante All American

    May 28, 2013

    I am curious how many nuclear MIRVs Quatwar has aimed at the US. Any country that has enough misses to eliminate the majority of our country by noon tomorrow is bad and is not in any way our friend. The Florida National Guard could likely take out Quatar by the end of the month. So, I’m not sure how these two countries are comparable in the slightest.
  9. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Another incorrect drive by. Par for the course.
  10. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    Nov 25, 2017
    We have a major military base in Qatar.