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AOC’s Green New Deal

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by The_RH_Factor, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Extremely Online Premium Member

    Why let the so-called crazy people drive the discussion? Who's stepping up with a 'rational, actionable' and comprehensive plan?
     
  2. g8trjax

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    I'll bet this green deal polls scrong with millennials.
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    The deniers have always correctly understood that addressing climate change would entail a pretty massive transformation and reconfiguring of our economy and indeed capitalism itself, and now there is a proposal that acknowledges that to some degree, and moreover dresses it in the language and trappings of perhaps the most popular and consequential Democratic president in history. Its just good politics.
     
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  4. gator7_5

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    Lmao at the one other guy backing the bill. Must be looking for some face time on TMZ.
     
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  5. cjgator76

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    It certainly sounds like a well thought out, practical plan.

    Republican strategists everywhere are smiling.
     
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  6. wgbgator

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    Probably, they are the ones that have to live on this planet another 40-50 years.
     
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  7. nobbqsauce

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    7 billion people and growing. IF man is truly effecting global warming do you truly believe anything instituted by this country at this point will make a difference? We aren't even the worse offenders or the biggest country.
     
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  8. oragator1

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    If your point is that a plan is better than no plan regardless of how infeasible it is, that’s fine. But if announcing a plan that gives legitimacy to the idea that those who support this stuff are bat**** crazy and ultimately lowers support for the Dems on this, then this does more harm than good.
    And yes, I would like to see someone more in the political center try, but it your point, no one is wracking forward to do so. And this will make it harder.
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    Yes, and "making a difference" is a low bar at that. Even changes that reduced warming by a degree or less would have significant impact on the climate and civilization.
     
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  10. wgbgator

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    Why will it make it harder?
     
  11. mdgator05

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    Are you asking if cutting back production in a country that has 14.34% of all global emissions would have any effect?
     
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  12. oragator1

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    Because they will be lumped in with her and her plan, fair or not. She is now a loud voice on it, so whenever the topic is mentioned her name will follow, at least in the short and medium term. When whoever brings it fired is asked about it, it will be how it differs from hers, whether they need to negotiate with her wing of the party etc. No one wants that association, especially after this.
     
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  15. The_RH_Factor

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    Actually, if the Green New Deal doesn’t pass, we’ll be gone in 12 years.
     
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  17. oragator1

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    This is interesting, but I do think property rights are more prevalent in wealthier countries, and those countries tend to be more interested in, and can afford to implement greater protections for their environments.
     
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  19. philobeddoe

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    Yeh, with the Donald in the White House, you’d think the dems would seize this opportunity to pick a normal, intelligent, reasonable person as they are new post-Clinton leader ..... and yet, they can’t do do better than some nut job socialist.
     
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  20. exiledgator

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    This can't be surprising to anyone, can it?

    American politics today. Fight fire with fire. "Look at those radicals over there! Hold my beer."