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After new document is revealed, Warren struggles with questions of identity

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by philobeddoe, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. FearNoSpear

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    I am an Independent voter who is really hoping the Democrats present a viable candidate I can vote for. I loathe Elizabeth Warren. I am happy this happened so the Democrats can put her in the rear view mirror and focus on someone else.

    If they roll out the usual suspects I’ll be voting third party in protest again.
     
  2. gator7_5

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    No normal person would do what she did. Then again, no normal person would be running for president these days.
     
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  3. citygator

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    I get why Warren is frustrated with something relatively small (but still wrong) compared to other people’s flaws (way worse) but I don’t see how she shakes it. Here’s Donald being Presidential about it.

     
  4. gatorpika

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    It could be worse than the usual suspects. Harris and Booker were immediately tweeting about how great AOC's green new deal was the other day. I will vote for a centrist candidate on either side, but I doubt we see one in this cycle as both sides seem to be driving toward the fringe and polls show there is little support for the center.
     
  5. rivergator

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    That's pretty bizarre. One might think Trump put trail in all caps as a reference to the Trail of Tears, but Fox's Brit Hume assures us that the president is too ignorant of American history to have even heard of it.

    Fox News pundit argues Trump is too ignorant to make racist taunt about Native American genocide
     
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  6. PITBOSS

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    How come? (Not that I disagree/agree).
     
  7. fortunateson

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    This is classic hypocrisy by the OP and all the Buffoon's other minions. They will decry Warren's lying about her ancestry, yet most everything out of the POTUS mouth is either a made up fact or an outright LIE! Where is their outrage over that? POTUS and his followers think NO ONE is paying attention, when in fact EVERYONE is paying attention! #lockhimup
     
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  8. citygator

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    One lie is a big deal. It’s infinitely bigger than zero lies. The one millionth lie by Trump is only fractionally worse I guess.
     
  9. FearNoSpear

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    To be fair I loathe most politicians. She simply represents the stereotypical politician to me. Like Crist she used to be a Republican then switched to Democrat for political gain. You never know if she's being genuine or not. I have a hard time taking her seriously. I think she's counter productive to the Democrats. Much like Cruz is for the Republicans. More of a punchline for the other side than an asset to their own party.
     
  10. Gatorrick22

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    But she has high cheek bones? Lol...
     
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    And Mee-Maw told her it was true ... so there’s that.
     
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  12. gatorknights

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    And her Pappaw too. How many bottles of the fire water did she down on that video?
     
  13. MaceoP

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    Donald is a shyster, and on the flip side, he is working his ass off to get his agenda done.
    Warren is an amateur, getting sidetracked by her stupid indian heritage claim. If Trump ran as a democrat (which he easily could have done), I'm sure most of you would be pretty happy that he was fighting for his (your) agenda. Let's face it, it's all about what they can do for their base.
    Head to head, would you rather have Warren or Trump fighting for your position, if what was important to you the outcome>
     
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  14. citygator

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    Unequivocally wrong for me. I don’t agree with Machiavelli.
     
  15. MaceoP

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    good luck with Pocahontas
     
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  16. citygator

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    Not a fan. Just would not rather Donnie be my advocate even if he pushed a progressive agenda.
     
  17. grumpygator77

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    But that's the deal. I just don't see it coming from the "other side" in the volume and disrespect I have seen it from the Republican supporters, voters, posters-- as far back as Obama. Heck I still see folks calling Hillary "Hildabeast".
    And to add, we never had a president like this one who engages in such childish nicknaming as he has and does-- almost daily.
    If someone puts themselves in the public eye, I still don't see how that justifies name calling. After all didn't the first lady embark on an anti-bullying campaign? You see, this is the hypocrisy on the right I have a problem with.
     
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  18. grumpygator77

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    If you read Charlie Crist's book you will see that the moment for him to switch parties came on a visit to Florida from then President Obama. He said he received outrage from his own Republican party for simply shaking Obama's hand and being cordial to him.
    It was then that he realized his party had gone off the rails. He realized that such partisanship was simply ridiculous and non-productive. Maybe the reason others like Crist have left the party.
     
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  19. FearNoSpear

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    Perhaps. The two platforms are so different. I was a Republican once. Didn't like the direction of the party either. I didn't magically become a full blown Democrat though.
     
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  20. grumpygator77

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    I didn't magically become a full blown Dem either. I have voted Republican in the past (presidential elections) but became more and more tired of virtually no platform for the Republicans other than the "fear campaigning" and patent criticism of all ideas Democrat.

    In my younger days, I did vote as a registered independent. But quickly realized that while I could pat myself on the back for not being a part of the system or maybe thinking I was sending a message, the hard reality was nothing was accomplished. Like it or not it is currently a wasted vote as there is no real third party platform that shows me anything valuable in changing the direction of this country. Maybe in theory, but certainly not in reality. So I have resigned myself to voting for the best candidate for the job within the two parties and have stopped looking for the perfect candidate. They all have flaws. Which flaws will effect their job performance? How qualified are they? That's the issues for me.

    Given any private sector job there will be folks who perform their duties flawlessly and are truly an asset to their company. But I'm sure I wouldn't always want to know them on a personal level.
     
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