Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gatorjjh, Aug 4, 2019.
Please don't quote so much bianchi. Thanks.
Can we appeal to the NCAA to add one extra game to our schedule for the sole purpose of going to Orlando to shut them the @$*& up?
Otherwise, no reason to consider it.....
History Lesson UCF.....
Florida and Central Florida last played in 2006, a 42-0 victory in the Swamp by the eventual national champion Gators. The teams had been scheduled to play again the following season, but UCF got out of the game and ended up paying a $100,000 buyout, according to documents released through a public-records request.
UCF also ducked out of a game against the ‘Canes not too long ago.
UM had to scramble to find an opponent and wound up playing at App State.
Agree to play in their teeny tiny stadium on the condition they guarantee the same payout that UF got playing Michigan in Dallas.
In an effort to provide a possible scenario with a 2 for 1, I would only play them in a 2 for 1 if the buyout for the last game at Florida was set at double what we would normally make for a home game. If they want to play us that bad at their stadium I would want a higher than normal guarantee of not backing out of the contract. That way if they do back out they would pay up and would even be higher than what they could make from their own home game anyway.
Honestly I’d prefer 3 neutral site games to this UCF series. But honestly I’m okay with this 2 for 1. When it happens UCD will suck again
My favorite idea for OOC scheduling is for 8 national powers to come together and get some sort of multi year tournament. One year 4 teams host, second year another 4 teams host. Then the next two rounds do at neutrals or have teams host. Last round you’d match up the teams based on record. So you’d essentially get to play 4 different national teams across 4 years in an actual competition. Kind of gimmicky but it would add some flavor than the typical OOC match.
And we don’t pay UCF a ton of money to come and play at BHG.
I am fine with playing UCF, FAU, USF, Miami & FSU, we are and have been the premier program (not just football) for decades, I trust Stricklin to negotiate very favorable terms for the games, manage the schedules year to year and let the chips fall where they may. I think it would help with in state recruiting and might just be fun to watch.
Interesting post by Dooley:
15. “Danny White, the athletic director at UCF and brother of Florida’s basketball coach, keeps banging the drum for a Florida-UCF series. With a caveat. “We’re not going to do two games at somebody else’s stadium and then a neutral-site game in Orlando at Camping World Stadium,” White said. OK. Only thing is, that’s never been a UF consideration or a discussion, just an assumption that Florida would not play on the UCF campus.
Or perhaps White just keeps setting up parameters in place that will mean his team never has to actually play a big-time program in the regular season because, in the end, that could be the worst thing that could happen to UCF. It’s a theory, one I happen to subscribe to.”
UF has nothing to gain by playing UCF. I seem to remember UCF canceling the last time they were supposed to play the Gators. I’d much prefer a West Coast or Midwestern top 20 team that brings tradition to the table.
Methinks a 2-1-1 ratio: 1 at their home, two at Gainesville and 1 in Tampa over a 15-year period, sounds about right. After that, they can spend their time shining their "we belong" trophy.
Kindergartners need to learn how to keep their mouths shut when the adults are talking about important stuff.
We pay THEM exactly what they pay US to play in their crib.
And I DO mean crib.
Why would we ever reschedule them after they backed out of the 2007 game? They had their chance and chickened out.
Marketing. That is all.
I'm so over this clown. Time to just ignore him.
By the time we even put them on the schedule, UCF will have sunk back into 2-10 obscurity again.
a little early for that prediction, they are an up and comer with a large institution behind them, Frost has moved on lets see just how well they current staff does before declaring them irrelevant
I find UCF incredibly annoying, and AD White is a disaster. He could have made UCF into America's favorite underdog, and instead turned them into this.
The thing that bothers me, is UCF could win. Don't get me wrong, if UF brings even its B game we'll walk away with a multiscore win, but UCF would have a chip on their shoulder and if we walk into a noon game a little sleepy (we know that happens once every year), we'll get sucker punched. They are an idiot's version of Missouri.
Reading our GC Threads it reminds me of the early/mid 60[s attitude toward FSU
here is a snippet from WIKI on the early 'rivalry' the tie in 61 and the loss in '67 on Florida Field.
The University of Florida administration, however, was reluctant to treat Florida State University as an equal, less for reasons of intercollegiate sports rivalry than for reasons of limited state funding for higher education and the perception that Florida State's demands for a greater share of those funds might undercut the University of Florida's role as the state's historic flagship university. As the impasse dragged on, a bill was proposed in the Florida Legislature in 1955 which would have mandated that the two schools compete against each other in football and other sports. While the bill was voted down, Florida Governor LeRoy Collins personally requested to University of Florida president J. Wayne Reitz that he take the lead in starting a yearly football series between the two state universities. Reitz agreed, and the schools negotiated a contract that began their football series in 1958, the first available opening on the Gators' non-conference schedule.
One of the stipulations in the first contract was that all games be played in the Gators' home stadium, Florida Field in Gainesville, because the Seminoles' home field at Doak Campbell Stadium had a capacity of under 20,000. The first six games in the series were all played in Gainesville. Florida State initiated a series of expansions to Doak Campbell Stadium, and beginning in 1964, the game site has alternated on an annual home-and-away basis between Gainesville and Tallahassee. The Gators hold a 20–11–1 series advantage in games held in Gainesville, and have a one-game edge for those played in Tallahassee, 13–12–1. The Gators and Seminoles have split two neutral-site games—both Sugar Bowls played in the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans (1994 and 1997). Since alternating the game site, the Gators hold a 29–23–1 edge over the Seminoles. Since Bobby Bowden became the head coach at Florida State in 1976, the Seminoles hold a 21–19–1 advantage over the Gators.
The 1961 game
After the Florida State College for Women became the co-educational Florida State University in 1947, the newly formed Florida State Seminoles football team achieved immediate success on the gridiron. Under head coach Don Veller, the Seminoles became the first collegiate football program in the state of Florida to go unbeaten and untied, finishing 8–0 in 1950. Under Coach Tom Nugent, the Seminoles made the move to major college status in 1955. Just three years later, Nugent would lead the Seminoles onto Florida Field to face the Gators, with Florida winning 21–7. With the arrival of Bill Peterson in 1960, the Seminoles began their move to national prominence. Under Peterson's direction, the Seminoles beat the Gators for the first time in 1964 and earned their first major bowl bid. Peterson also led the Seminoles to their first-ever top-ten ranking. While Peterson was taking the Seminole program to new heights, Ray Graves had been hired as the Gators new head coach to improve the Florida football program. When the two teams fought to a 3–3 tie in 1961, Graves likened the result to "a death in the family." From that point on, the game took on new significance and the rivalry intensified.
Some here will even remember:
'Never Say Never FSU' from those early days