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76% of young campers test positive for Covid 19 at Georgia YMCA summer camp

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Aug 2, 2020.

  1. mdgator05

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    His measure involves the last two weeks of data and whether it is showing increased incidence. If you look at their numbers, they are regularly returning over 10% positive test rates. He utilizes a 1% positivity rate as a baseline because that is the rate at which contact tracing can be effectively implemented. So when you are at over 10%, you will likely have a pretty high number in his measure.
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    Can you find where in the statement they defined hotspots in a manner that would include South Florida but not a place like Seminole County?
     
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  3. gator95

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    There is no definition for Hotspot. So it’s subjective, most likely on purpose. Seminole county is not a hot spot. Anyone that says it is is using logic.
     
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    Again, Sweden did not keep records regarding schools and COVID-19. There's no data to extrapolate. Germany's small scale test was with about 2,000 students. The country of Israel has about 1 million school aged kids that went back to school, and their results widely differed from that of Germany. Which is likely more accurate? Small scale German test with 2000 students, or Israel, with about 1 million?
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    You say it is "subjective" and then declare that Seminole County isn't one as if that statement is factual. Can you find a single classification system that declares that Seminole County is not a hotspot or location of an active outbreak? You made the claim that the word is subjective, so you surely can find some group tracking this that agrees with your definitive, factual statement, right?
     
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    There is data to extrapolate. Kids in school didn’t raise their rates.


    Sweden's health agency says open schools did not spur pandemic spread among children
     
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    Nope, because maybe this is hard for you to grasp, but hotspot doesn’t have an exact meaning. When I think of hotspot I think of NYC in April, Parts of Louisiana, Texas and California and SoFla now. Seminole county is not a hot spot in my estimation. If you think it is great, that just confirms my thinking of you. But school is opening up and it’s awesome. Sucks for you I guess.
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    And yet, you declared that it wasn't one as a point of fact. So then you weren't being accurate?

    I have pointed to multiple expert designed classification systems that disagree with your purely subjective classification. I will go with them above your subjective classification system that seems driven by what you want than any factual analysis.
     
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  9. gatorknights

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    When I lived in Seminole County (Altamonte) there was a brief outbreak of STD's. Guess I was hanging with the wrong crowd (the Brantley crew) but fortunately I was unscathed. Back to our regular scheduled programming. :devil::eek::D
     
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    People who have to go back to work now that the $ 600.00 unemployment insurance bonus has ended.
     
  12. philnotfil

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    That would be in the minimal cases group. The study was from May and June. Germany had some peaks at the beginning and end of that period with cases just over a thousand, but spent most of that time under 500 daily cases. We have about four times their population. That would be like us having some peaks around 4000 daily cases, but spending most of our time under 2000 new cases. We've had a handful of days under 20,000 daily new cases and are currently in the 60-70 thousand range for daily new cases. We are not in the same situation as the population in that study.
     
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  13. gator95

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    Brantley Crew? I probably know them LOL
     
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    Something to consider, is that there are about 63 people per square mile in Sweden and over 350 people per square mile in Florida. Obviously that number is worse in urban areas and better in rural areas.

    I think each district should probably make their own decision about going back to school, in conjunction with guidance from state and local health officials.

    Miami, for example, has had a huge outbreak, and at 130,000 people per square mile, is probably at a much greater risk of spreading the virus should people go back to school F2F.

    I'm having a hard time finding good data from Sweden though. A lot of what I have found has not been peer reviewed. I would be hesititant to draw broad conclusions from anything going on in sweden when talking about Florida, because the pandemic has gone way different in Florida than it has in Sweden. Florida has 5 times as many infected as that country.
     
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  15. gator95

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    Cases didn’t increase with kids in school. Not sure how that’s a problem.
     
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    For those following along at home.

    How Sweden wasted a ‘rare opportunity’ to study coronavirus in schools

     
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    I would guess that a good portion of their population is concentrated around the major cities of Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmo so that would increase the people per square mile in those centers.
     
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    Again what does that have to do with the point of the study.

    They contact traced over 2000 people who had contact with covid sick in a school setting.
     
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    I was there from 83-93. If that is consistent with your time horizon there is a good chance of that. :)