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76% of young campers test positive for Covid 19 at Georgia YMCA summer camp

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Aug 2, 2020.

  1. vaxcardinal

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    When I was a kid, if I were told that summer break was being extended a couple of months, suicide would be the last thing I would be thinking about
     
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  2. gator95

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    Well, Seminole County doesn’t seem to have full capacity of beds. So since that’s wrong I didn’t bother reading anything else. Sorry.

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    That wasn't the claim that they made. They made the claim about ICU beds. Your link has 8 ICU beds available in the county. That gap is likely methodological, as they aren't far off from 100% filled.
     
  4. gator95

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    Try again. There are ICU beds available. Oops. Sorry but there goes your argument.
     
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    Okay, that website claims that there are 8 ICU beds available and the other site claims 0. Huge discrepancy.

    So what classification system is Seminole County not considered high risk or in the midst of an active outbreak?
     
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    I gave you a lol.

    However, my concern is hunger. School age kids depend on schools and programs to feed them. There are lots of programs throughout the country that try and do an admirable job getting food to kids on the weekend and summer months. Some are not able to reach many kids for different reasons, one being lack of funds. Covid has caused a lot of problems for needy kids.

    This article touches on the many obstacles we face feeding children while not in school and the stress it places on poor families when kids are not able to attend school.

    Millions of kids go hungry in the US every summer without school lunches. These striking facts reveal the scale of the problem.
     
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  7. gator95

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    Only 11% off. That’s terrible. Only 66 ICU beds in Seminole County. Keep trying.
     
  8. mdgator05

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    That discrepancy is completely unimportant in the classification of Seminole County, as either 11% availability or 0% availability are in the top category for their classification system.

    I notice you didn't answer the second question. By what classification system is Seminole County not considered in an active outbreak or a hotspot? I will wait...
     
  9. gator95

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    If the data is wrong then I don’t really care what it says, because wrong data will give wrong results.
     
  10. mdgator05

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    Even if we assume your data is more accurate than this data, it didn't affect their classification. 11% capacity would also be in the highest risk category for ICU usage.
     
  11. philnotfil

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    As far as I can tell there really aren't any reports from other countries with active cases and contact tracing showing almost no spread at all with kids.

    There are reports from other countries with minimal cases and contact tracing showing almost no spread at all with kids, and almost no spread at all from any other source either.

    There are reports from other countries with active cases and no contact tracing showing they don't have any evidence about how the virus spread to or from the kids.
     
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  12. gator95

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    I’m not going to bother looking into it because the first thing I looked up was wrong. Don’t have a lot of faith in them being correct so I dismissed it. Seminole county schools are opening in 2 weeks and can’t wait for my kids to do in person learning.
     
  13. philnotfil

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    Okay, so you need to work on your process here a little. First, you need to decide what your conclusion is going to be, in this case we will say that our conclusion is that it is safe for kids to go back to school in person. Now, working our way back from there, you need to grab any sliver of suggestion that your conclusion is true. You don't need to read full studies, grabbing a sentence or two, or even a fragment of a sentence is enough. As long as it supports your conclusion.
     
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  14. docspor

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    not arg yr pts, but when did pediatricians become scientists?
     
  15. gator95

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    They didn’t, but they have their patients best interests at heart. Here is a little chart to ponder.


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  16. mdgator05

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    Okay. Are you going to look into the Scott Gottlieb numbers? You have utilized him as a source on this website. His system says that any risk measure over 1 requires strict mitigation. Seminole County's measure? 13.56. What is wrong with his system?

    Or, alternatively, you could provide a risk assessment system that you prefer...
     
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    German study finds low Covid-19 infection rate in schools
     
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  18. gator95

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    Good effort. Not working. Seminole county is opening schools in 2 weeks. We are not in a hot spot. If someone pulls crap out of their butt or uses a stupid system to come up with numbers then I won’t take them as a guideline. No idea what Gottlieb came up with. Not my concern. My concern is my kids and they have zero to worry about considering Covid.
     
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    I missed the point. Is it a hoax?
     
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