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2/3 of younger workers wouldn’t live in a state with abortion bans

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, May 7, 2024.

  1. mdgator05

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    Moving is pretty common for lower income people. From an income perspective, about 10% of people in the $20-$50K income range will move in a year compared with about 7.8% of people in the $75K+ income range. I'd imagine that many of the people in the $75K+ range say things like "I can't afford it." This is because they often are more attached to fixed assets, like housing, than people at lower levels.

    Education is another interesting element here. More educated people move at higher rates than lower educated people. So the most likely to move would be somebody who is educated with a relatively low income while the least likely would be somebody who wasn't educated but had a higher income.
     
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  2. danmanne65

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    Deciding where and when to move is always a complex decision with many pros and cons. It is silly to think that bodily autonomy wouldn’t be a factor in a young woman’s decision making.
     
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  3. tilly

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    Dismissive? I say factual.

    The folks in this thread discussing relocation are not young grad school kids that I am aware of.the one accusing me of being "privileged" for certain.

    Demand and existing financial security are somewhat synonymous. Both are privileged positions compared to those who dont have the opportunity.

    It is also not dismissive to say that moving over politics is chasing the wind. What happens if one packs up their family only to see the wind change in a cycle or two?
     
  4. tilly

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    They wont relocate to other states over politics.You are talking about moving in a literal sense, but not for the reasons discussed in this thread.
     
  5. mdgator05

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    They are moving in general. I'd be surprised if you didn't see their decisions begin to correlate with policy differences. Preferences for location often serve as a tie breaker or as an initial screening mechanism (where candidates apply and where they don't) and it is hard to imagine that policy and political differences don't factor into that somewhat.
     
  6. tilly

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    Now I agree it could contribute as one of many factors. I am talking about someone saying "my move is based on political disagreement". I find that to be a fools errand.
     
  7. BossaGator

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    Factual based on your experience maybe. Certainly not based on mine (my own story included). If indeed what you meant by “privileged” includes “in high demand” for young grads, I don’t think you’ve rebutted the troubles presaged by the survey. You’ve just noted a further aspect of the problem - those high demand grads are more likely to move to non-abortion banning states, leading to an imbalance in the quality of the workforce. We’re not strictly talking about choosing a location over politics here. We’re talking about choosing a location over a specific issue involving a right a person might have in one place and not in another. I’d imagine if those rights changed in the location they chose, they would have to make that decision again with their current circumstances in mind. But in demand workers (especially those early in their careers) choosing a location with that issue in mind isn’t stupid. It’s entirely logical.
     
  8. archigator_96

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    The only caveat I would put on that is what if, for example mind you, that you were in the, say, I don't know, pornography business. And the state you lived in passed laws against it. I'd be moving pretty fast.
     
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  10. tilly

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    We arent really disagreeing so much I don't think. A recent college grad (for instance) open to multiple locations will certainly consider politics. I am strictly referring to a rooted person, uprooting based on politics alone.

    The foolishness is not so much in which side of the spectrum you fall, but in the fact that the pendulum may swing and now what?
     
  11. tilly

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    But in a case like that, you are really moving as a career choice and not a political one.
     
  12. tampagtr

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    Work through democracy!

     
  13. BossaGator

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    By that same token, many of those who would not move to abortion-banning states would characterize their decision as one based on healthcare, not politics in the abstract. And a lot of the medical professionals who are leaving or avoiding those states would characterize their choices as career choices. The political climate sets the stage for sure but for a lot of folks who want to live in states where abortion is legal it’s a practical decision, not merely an abstract policy disagreement.
     
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  14. tilly

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    I don't disagree.
    I am not even speaking of abortion specifically, but politics in general. Moving over pure politics seems foolish to me
     
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