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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Aug 12, 2025 at 5:08 PM.

  1. Orange_and_Bluke

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  3. okeechobee

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    Would I mock Biden for the Santa Claus routine? Yes.
     
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    Was going to post this in the DC thread and still may in the future. In 1989 when DC actually was the crime-ridden dystopia that Trump claims that it is today, Congress mandated that the District hire 1,800 new police officers or lose Federal funds. The District complied and hired the new officers a number of whom turned out to be incompetent or unqualified and some actually turned out to be criminals themselves. It wouldn't surprise me if a significant number of the new ICE agents end up falling into the same categories.
    Congress tried to control D.C. police in 1989. The results were disastrous.
    The crack epidemic was raging. Gangs of drug dealers engaged in murderous competition. The annual homicide toll nearly surpassed 500 [it was 186 in 2024 and 263 in 2023], nearly five times last year’s total, at a time when the city had about 100,000 fewer residents. The poverty-riven city was mired in fiscal and social chaos — and on the cusp of bankruptcy. The rampant “bloodshed, bedlam and squalor” that Trump conjured to describe the city this week was a stark reality.

    Back in 1989, one of the first directives lawmakers on Capitol Hill issued to then-Mayor Marion Barry (D) was to hire 1,800 new police officers for a force then numbering about 3,600. Otherwise, Congress would withhold $430 million in federal funds that year — and again the next. Barry’s administration had about 20 months to comply.

    As a series of stories in The Washington Post later revealed, the hiring binge was marked by drastic corner-cutting in proper recruitment, background checks and training, and it led to an influx of men and women who were not qualified to wear badges or carry guns. At least one received his acceptance letter while he was locked up on drug charges. Another’s mailing address turned out to be St. Elizabeths Hospital, the city’s secure psychiatric facility.

    By 1994, graduates of D.C. police academy classes in 1989 and 1990 composed roughly a third of the force. Yet they made up about half of all officers charged with crimes since 1989, from shoplifting to murder, and more than half of those accused by the department of insubordination, neglect of duty and making false statements. Prosecutors at the time kept a list of D.C. officers so tainted by wrongdoing that they could not be called to testify in court. Half of the 189 officers on that roster were 1989 or 1990 academy graduates.
     
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  5. GatorRade

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    Ha. I’m not really sure what term would best describe my current political outlook, but I’m less interested in the outcomes of left vs right battles and more interested in upholding fair democratic principles. Instead of a fan who promises that their team will win, I’m more interested in a leader that would be like a ref that promises a fairly called game. The politician that best represents this to me is Justin Amash.
     
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  6. GatorRade

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    In other words, if Trump follows through with his promises, he deserves praise, and if Biden does it, he deserves derision.
     
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  7. okeechobee

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    I'm not sure what it is you are asking? If you are asking me if I mock Biden for lighting our country on fire, the answer is no. It wasn't funny. If you are asking me if I mock Biden for the Santa Claus routine, again, the answer is a resounding yes.
     
  8. pogba

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    Santa Claus routine is only praised when we can give billionaires tax cuts right?
     
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    LOL at the progressive. Maybe if Santa confiscated large chunks of your allowance throughout the year and gave a small part of it back to you on Christmas morning. I suppose then the analogy kinda works, if we triple down on the suspension of disbelief. Is that what your parents did?
     
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    "Progressive" meaning someone who believes when you are in trillions of debt, you don't cut taxes for the people who are benefitting most? The OBBB cut Medicare for the poor, but gave every rich family $6.3m in estate and gift tax exemptions.
    This doesn't even consider that they increased tariffs that hurt the working class disproportionally.
    Keep simping for the oligarchs while we ignore all the lessons of the past in what happens to countries when rich people exempt themselves from taxes.
     
  11. okeechobee

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    Yes, I already understood you believe we are slaves for the government and not the other way around. Next time, try telling me something I didn’t already know.
     
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    No idea what that means, but apparently you don't have any thought of fiscal responsibility. GOP has lost their way and their moral compass
     
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  13. GatorRade

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    Let me ask it a different way. What is more important, that a president’s actions are consistent with his promises, or that a president’s actions are good for the country?
     
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  15. okeechobee

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    I see your point. Biden not only lied like a whore in a whorehouse, his actions were to the intentional detriment of the country. So yes, I would agree Biden was in fact, as President Trump has explained, the worst president in our nation’s history.
     
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