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Scenario: Trump Wins The Election. Democracy Hangs By A Thread. What Should We Do?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Contra, Jul 11, 2024.

Trump Wins The Election. Democracy Hangs In The Balance. What is the best response?

  1. People who care about their country should form an armed resistance to save democracy.

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  2. Democratic states should secede from the union to preserve democracy in blue states.

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  3. Biden or whoever it is that runs the country should declare martial law to save democracy.

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  4. Challenge the election results to save democracy.

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  5. Accept the election results, and wait until the 2028 elections to save democracy.

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  6. Accept the election results because there is no threat to democracy.

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  1. duggers_dad

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  2. Contra

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    I don't pretend that Trump is morally unassailable. He's far from it, but to call Trump Hitler when he has not murdered even one person is beyond stupid. It wouldn't be all that dissimilar to saying someone who is not a serial killer is like Ted Bundy for some other reason other than going on a rape/serial killer spree. Comparisons like that should not be made. They are not helpful. They are inherently fallacious smears on their face attempting to take the most grotesque behaviors of some of the world's most infamous people and plaster them onto another person who has not exhibited those grotesque behaviors. If I started finding ways to draw comparisons and associations between you and Ted Bundy that would be malicious and morally wrong even if I could dig and find valid common characteristics you share with Ted Bundy other than textbook serial killer type of behavior.
     
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  3. chemgator

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    Trump is dictatorial--there is no question about that. He worships dictators, and he would like to be one. He led an insurrection attempt in 2021, which is something a dictator might do. Do you have a preferred dictator that we should compare him to? Mussolini maybe? (Kim Jung Un and Vlad Putin are already in use.) Or could we compare him to a Charlie Chaplin character to also include his clownish ineptitude?

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  4. Contra

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    Trump thinks in transactional terms to make a good deal. So he praises his adversaries as a negotiating tactic to strike a good deal with them. You may not like that when he applies his version of business principles to negotiating practices in the geopolitical realm with dictators, but that is what he is doing. Employing those tactics in that way does not make him a dictator. It simply means you disagree with his negotiating tactics with dictators, which is fine. We are all free to disagree with the POTUS on how he goes about doing certain aspects of his job.

    Personally, I don’t like it either because it is a form of flattery. It is not telling the truth and speaking the truth at all times. That is more in line with the line of criticism that strikes at the truth of what is wrong with Trump’s approach IMO.
     
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  6. Contra

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    Democratic strategist James Carville urged on Wednesday that Democrats open "Pandora’s Box" and execute multiple controversial power grabs to "save democracy," including establishing a permanent electoral majority the next time they gain power.

    Carville listed several perceived imbalances in the current system, including Texas attempting to redraw its congressional districts. He argued that if Democrats can pull off a resounding victory in 2028 – winning the presidency, the Senate, and the House – they should use it to enshrine their power in unprecedented ways.

    "They are just going to have to unilaterally add Puerto Rico and District of Columbia states," Carville said.

    "They're going to have to do it. They're just going to have to do it. And they may have to expand the [Supreme Court] to 13 members," he said.


    Carville urges Dems add Puerto Rico, DC as states, expand SCOTUS | Fox News

    It looks like the save democracy in 2028 strategy option is coming into form. Pack the SCOTUS with Democrats and add DC and Puerto Rico as states to save democracy!
     
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  7. pogba

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    This is a preview into what is coming when power changes hands and also the permanent damage that has and will be done to our country by this recklessness going on now.

    Some folks are really not thinking about what has been unleashed and how it’s going to erode our freedom long term. Alligator Alcatraz might house political dissenters this time next decade.
     
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  8. dangolegators

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    Good. Hope it happens.
     
  9. Emmitto

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    Actually, this is the best idea for D’s. They get consistently outmaneuvered at every step in the current system.

    Then the counter-punches.

    Not that I am for anarchy or anything…