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Supreme Court Clears the Way for Trump’s Cuts to the Education Department

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Jul 14, 2025.

  1. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    Supreme Court Allows Trump to Gut Education Department With Mass Firings - The New York Times

    I'm surprised there wasn't a thread on this ruling today. Trump can move forward with a plan to eliminate the Dept. of Education which was a Republican idea all the way back to Reagan.
     
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  2. GatorFanCF

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    I would be impressed with any 20-something who would speak without saying “Me and Joe saw a concert last night.”
    Me remains unimpressed with the quality of education.
    Of course, me could be wrong.

    Us obviously needs more money and more administrators and unions to educate us, the people.
     
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  3. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

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    Silly.

    But I think your guy Trump and the Republicans have got it all figured out;

    1) Drain the money from the public schools, particularly for things funded by DoE like Special Education ...... and then the "failing schools" myth (as opposed to failing parents) more so becomes reality, as schools are strapped for cash.

    2) This encourages the next step, which is to incentivize parents to move students to "better" private schools and charters since those schools, by virtue of not having to serve the most needy, can proportionately devote more resources towards academics and .... by self-selecting their students, they can also falsely label home academic preparation as "school performance."

    3. After citing the false comparison of "results" (by omitting to note public schools increasing burden of serving less prepared and more needy students), they can further defund public schools and ......

    HERE'S THE WINNER : They can increase non-egalitarian vouchers ....

    .... allowing them to further perpetuate their intentional death spiral of public schools, locking in their all-along goal of;
    Defunding the most needy and vulnerable among us, in order to allocate more resources towards well-off families.


    It's just another example of the miserable, selfish greed of the right. It's no secret at all by now. But it's shameful, another disgrace from the right, another example of their intent to polarize America.

    Good game, America, it was good while it lasted.
     
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  4. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

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    ^ And if that was too many words, the TLDR version is;

    Greedy, selfish right-wingers just want to establish a two-tiered education system with themselves on top (and the needy, vulnerable and/or less affluent on the bottom), and they want it to be publicly funded through vouchers.

    It's a disgrace. (But then, what "policy" from the right isn't nowadays. They're already part-way there after recently throwing 11.8 million people off Medicaid for their tax cuts.)
     
  5. VAg8r1

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    Just saw a clip in which Trump said that schools should make sure that kids learn English. His cuts to the Department of Education will defund English as a second language programs.
     
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  6. Gatorrick22

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    Ending sentences with the word "at" is a good one. I'm sure some of us have made that mistake in conversation. The News people do it all the time.
     
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  7. GatorFanCF

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    One of the biggest differences between Conservatives and Leftists is the belief that “more government = better, healthier, smarter.”

    In general, I find the larger the centralized bureaucracy the less helpful it is to most people.

    Ultimately, The best way to make sure children learn is to read to them many many many times and teach them to read before the age of six. If they can read they can learn almost anything - even here on THFSG
     
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  8. gatordavisl

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    Did you start at age seven then? Your opening line fails amid the spending spree of the current admin. Seem to also miss on the function of the DOE.
     
  9. gator_fever

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    It appears Trump has reduced the federal workforce by over 22,000 people. That bloat should have never happened in the first place. A ton of office or remote adult day care jobs in there that should have never existed. Corporate America has a lot of office adult day care jobs that shouldn't exist either but I think AI may lead to a lot of them being eliminated also.
     
  10. mrhansduck

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    “Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.”

    - Churchill?
     
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  11. Emmitto

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    Ending a sentence with “at” in conversation is not only acceptable it is in fact preferable (correct) in most cases. “With whom are you going” or “At whom are you looking” is a ridiculous way to speak.

    The “never end sentences with a preposition” prohibition is only for formal writing, and even then it may or not be acceptable. I personally would not take the chance if I were submitting for publication or something like that but often even “formal” affairs will not frown upon conversational protocols.

    Using “me” in place of “I” in conversation is also generally acceptable. The main point of conversation is delivering and receiving information, not nailing technicalities that don’t improve the exchange. Again, in a formal setting, don’t risk it and get it all technically correct.

    How about random caps? That one isn’t conversational since I have no idea how you are envisioning the words. And incorrect capitalization can serve a functional purpose by providing emphasis or status. But it is officially out of control now. Just cap Whatever because you Yourself Really Don’t UNDERSTAND what Point you’re even trying To Make with this Tactic.
     
  12. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

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    my Grandfather used to ask this question

    wheresat

    and my Grandmother would answer

    o-vair
     
  13. Emmitto

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    My fam still speaks this way. We like to save as many syllables as possible. The long i sound is practically the 11th Commandment (Thou shall not make the long ah sound.)

    My stepdad once told us he was so frustrated with an experience buying tars, so sick and tarred of it, that he almost tarred and feathered the rep he was working with. I don’t recall the exact phrasing now but he worked all those words into a single rant and the only thing everyone else in the room found amusing was that I found that amusing.