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EO on NIL incoming after meeting with Saban?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Shade45, Jul 17, 2025.

  1. FeeBart

    FeeBart VIP Member

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    Not to be political, but I think the congress, both dems and pubs , are so sick of the NCAA hypocrisy that anything even half way sensible will pass with bipartisan support even Proffered by Trump.

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  2. belloit

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    I agree with you but I am suspicious that they will somehow manage to make the problem worse.
     
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  3. TballGator05

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    what if the merits and the problems are political ;)
     
  4. regurgigator

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    ...and that female gymnast from LSU? :p:devil:

    I don't understand how an NIL valuation process works. (Maybe I'll ask AI. :cool:). In some markets, they'll say that something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. That, I can understand.
     
  5. FeeBart

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    Pretty much it!
     
  6. FeeBart

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    At this point it can’t get any worse but the ability of humans to screw something up never ceases to amaze me.
     
  7. stingbb

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    Agree, college athletes should be classified as students and not employees. And yes, they should be allowed to share in revenue with hard caps set, and legitimate NIL deals should be allowed but regulated. Bottom line is colleges should never be considered as a minor league for any professional sport. The NBA and MLB have minor leagues and while both lose millions of dollars each year, they give kids a chance to play right out of high school if they so desire. It would be the last thing the NFL wants to do but let them start a minor league for football players who want to do the same.

    NCAA Football has no competition. Basically, if a kid graduating HS wants to continue playing the sport, he has to play in college and has to play by their rules. If an individual doesn’t want to do so, let the NFL figure out how to give those kids an opportunity to play. The other sports do have options to play professionally right away but very few take advantage of that and decide to go to college first.
     
  8. belloit

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    Your definition has some merit but the issue is not what someone will pay for an NIL deal because some will pay for the NIL and pay for play. The NCAA wants the fair market value to be the economic benefit to the entity paying for the contract. For example, the local car company may wish to use DJ as an ad spokesman to help sell the cars. The calculation is the advertising value of DJ to the company. Calculating his value to the car sales is not an easy calculation. The methodology could be done in several different ways—none are inexpensive or quick to do. If I was currently living in Gainesville and was pretty familiar with the local economy, I would bid the job estimating that it would take me about 30 hours of work. If I was not familiar with the local market, at least double that time. I don’t know what the going rate for that kind of analysis is today but based upon what I was able to charge 20-30 years ago, I would estimate it would currently be $400-$500 per hour. To give you an idea what the NIL Go people are looking at, DJ might have a dozen or more of these endorsement deals—all exceeding the $600 threshold to be evaluated. Just looking at the University of Florida, there are about 500 athletes in our sports programs. How many people would NIL Go have to hire just for Florida. To be fair to the athlete and the University, these deals would have to be evaluated in a very short period of time because the athlete might want to change to a different university if the NIL failed the NIL Go evaluation. To make matters worse, the NIL value for a particular athlete would likely be significantly different at other locations. (For example, DJ (or any other Gator athlete) would likely have significant endorsement value in Gainesville. An equally skilled athlete at the University of Miami would likely have a much lower endorsement value even thought the Miami market would seem to be larger. If you think I am being biased toward Florida, I would simply point out how many tickets are sold to a university of Florida game verses a University of Miami game. The problem is the local population in Miami really does not care that much about college football.
     
  9. Emmitto

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  10. blackbird68

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    I would suggest that the NCAA could not do nor could they have done what has been suggested by many. In my view, although then USSCt has not ruled definitively, the lower courts seemed to have established that any unilateral action by the NCAA (or the Universities) to try to set, regulate, or limit player compensation or benefits in whatever manner is most probably a violation of the Sherman Anti Trust Act.

    Quite frankly, in my view, although I have not seen any proposed Executive Order, I doubt the President has the power to enter any order which would violate the anti trust laws of the US nor exempt a particular industry, including college athletics, from such laws. In is my belief, any such exemption partial or in whole, or regulation thereof would have to be through congressional action.
     
  11. ajoseph

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    Isn’t this the backdrop of the Settlement that they’re trying to implement (short of the salary cap, which I think is absolutely needed but can only legally be reached through collective bargaining).
     
  12. ajoseph

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    I’m just going to add that anti-trust laws effectively make it impossible for the NCAA to do this. There needs to be congressional action to enable this type of a much needed solution (assuming you agree that college sports entertainment is “much needed”).
     
  13. Routerhead

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    Executive orders are an inexact method for creating legislation, as they are intended to streamline execution of existing legislation. If there is uncertainty in the existing legislation, the legislative branch is the constitutionally-mandated locus for remedy.

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  14. FeeBart

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    I believe if they formalized the classification of Student Athletes within the tax and Labor laws it would clear a lot of this up but piss a lot of Agents/lawyers off. Student Athlete only exist in tax via 117 and a BS Proc, which schools are violating now but the IRS does not want the smoke from what will come from attempting to enforce violations. The NLRB is some kind of crazy with the some of the private is, some aint, and none of the public are employes crap. NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH THIS and NOBODY wants to go back in front of SCOTUS especially the NCAA.

    Where have you been? The NCAA has been doing anti-trust since inception. Its how we got here.
     
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  15. FloridaGator80

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    Give it a few years (you're young). No amazement, just realization that just when you didn't believe the bar could go any lower, someone hauls out the backhoe and says, "Hold my beer!" You'll never be amazed, simply just giving a shake of the head.
     
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  16. OklahomaGator

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    I copied this thread from the Den. I thought it might have a discussion here.
     
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  17. PITBOSS

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    “regulate NIL”. And if players get money outside of regulations and the team is aware/involved, does the NCAA police player reimbursement and penalizing teams? Bowl bans, etc?
     
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