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EO on NIL incoming after meeting with Saban?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Shade45, Jul 17, 2025.

  1. Shade45

    Shade45 Premium Member

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    Probably will end up in THFSG but football related.





     
  2. Shade45

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    President to sign executive order establishing national NIL standards amid evolving legislation

    President Donald Trump plans to sign an executive order establishing national standards for name, image and likeness initiatives, according to CBS News. Within the past week, members of the U.S. House of Representatives introduced an amended bill called the SCORE Act (Student Compensation and Opportunity through Rights and Endorsements) aiming to "protect the name, image, and likeness rights of student-athletes to promote fair compensation with respect to intercollegiate athletics, and for other purposes."

    The bill could open the door for federal standards for NIL legislation, superseding the current state laws that provide guidance on player compensation.

    SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said Wednesday during an appearance on "SEC This Morning" that he had no knowledge of a pending executive order.

    President Donald Trump to sign executive order establishing national NIL standards amid evolving legislation
     
  3. Shade45

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  4. FloridaGator80

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    College sports having evolved into convoluted complications has now Entered the Tunnel of Weird.
     
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  5. belloit

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    Mods,

    Should this be merged with the thread on Recruiting?
     
  6. Emmitto

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    Well if there’s anyone that can definitely not make this even more of a dumpster fire it’s Homelander.
     
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  7. unclenunzio

    unclenunzio Respect my authoritay!!!!! Moderator VIP Member

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    If anyone makes this political, a 3 day site ban will be imposed. This will be your only warning.

    Discuss the merits or problems, but do not make this political.

    Thanks
     
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  8. gatorgunner

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    I'm in favor of ANYTHING that regulates the current Wild, Wild West, that is college sports today!
     
  9. floridagatorman

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    All I'm going to say is the cons are inherently political because the entire conversation around NIL is regulation and what regulatory bodies have the authority to do. The president hand selecting regulation through EO complicates everything those EO's touch because the president does not have the authority to enact enforceable regulation through EO. What this will cause is university presidents deciding whether or not they want to acquiesce for solely political reasons, with potential backlash and optics being the primary driver.

    Playing with the line there but the con is this will complicate things and I honestly can't believe anyone would support it from a CFB level and a foundational one.
     
  10. FeeBart

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    The best outcome would be to keep the players as students, make NIL deals actual endorsements based on real market value—without boosters and coaches manipulating the system—and set salary caps based on the current lawsuit figures, with minimum and maximum royalty limits.

    What you don’t want to do is make them employees, as some have suggested as it brings in a host of issues.
     
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  11. unclenunzio

    unclenunzio Respect my authoritay!!!!! Moderator VIP Member

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    100% spot on.
     
  12. Nick_Marcinko

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    Totally agree, but this is what I don't understand. The NCAA is supposedly putting a lot of money into making sure additional NIL deals on top of rev share earnings is real market value and reasonable compensation. They have a partnership with Deloitte. My question is, why wasn't this done from day one? They had to have seen this coming.
     
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  13. FeeBart

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    B ecause endorsements should not be the business of the university, except to ensure they are legitimate third party deals, coaches quickly bastardized the system before proper oversight could be implemented. The most crucial issue is that the NCAA refused to sanction their true owners, the universities.

    That failure, not a ruling by SCOTUS, is what brought us to this point. The NCAA has failed as a governing body ever since the SMU death penalty and the sanctions imposed on us. The financial repercussions of enforcing real accountability were simply too high for the universities to tolerate, unless you were from Gainesville or another small market.

    And let’s be honest, Tallahassee, ranked 107th, and Miami at 16th are not small television markets. Gainesville, on the other hand, sits at 157th. Back in the 1980s, “scUM,” was far ahead of Florida and Florida State in merchandise sales. And yes, that was also when they were actively selling players’ jerseys without sharing the revenue and you know they couldn’t hurt that.
     
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  14. belloit

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    Fee, the House decision is supposed to do much of this with NIL Go but the way it is structured will cause it to fail under its own weight. I absolutely agree that there should be some salary caps but I don’t see how a lawsuit for value of player x could prevail over player y. The judge in the House decision also failed in my opinion on the revenue sharing portion because she failed to address Title IX and funding for non-revenue sports. While I do not like the idea of declaring those who are being paid by the university through revenue sharing employees, I do see it as a way to address the problems left by an incomplete House settlement agreement. It would then allow collective bargaining for salary caps and might even allow for some improvement in “working conditions”. One other point here. I would really like the players to be students. Unfortunately, right now rules that would help the athletes to be students (progress toward graduation, GPA) seem to not be enforced as you have argued in the past.

    P.S. I think it is important to decouple private sector NIL from the University. The only NIL the university should be involved with is the NIL from the university directly selling player merchandise or licensing. Further the NIL from such merchandise should be a percentage of the sales or licensing agreement. That way the student would have an incentive to excel.
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    Not sure how an EO could be anything but advisory / voluntary compliance unless its backed by actual legislation
     
  16. belloit

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    The problem is that the way NIL Go is structured, they will not be able to make this fair market value determination in a timely manner. There are simply too many contracts for even a firm as large as Deloitte to handle. Further, for incoming high school players, they have little real NIL value because they have little previous exposure unless your name is Manning. As they actually play, their NIL value can develop.
     
  17. 79gator

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    It is a shame that Saban, some large donors, some congressmen, and the President have to do what the NCAA has failed immeasurably to do. That's not a criticism of anyone but the impotent, irrelevant, and misguided NCAA.
     
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  18. FeeBart

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    Ain’t been working that way so far.
     
  19. FeeBart

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    Title IX is a dead numeral walking. IMO

    If they are not employees, which they are only for private schools at this point , there is no need for collective bargaining. It just is as the school and ncaa sets. However, Limiting the NIL dollars just aint happening . The NFL deals with this routinely. It’s not a hard process. Sadly , as stated ,Arch Manning DJ Lagway and many QBs will the only multi million dollar NILs in a true valuation.
     
  20. wgbgator

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    If people want to treat it like a law they can, I guess. But if there are no teeth or enforcement mechanism, I'm not sure schools looking for an edge are going to tie their hands if there is no cost for non-compliance, legally or financially. Perhaps the incentive to collude to control costs will win out, we'll see.
     
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