Florida football CB Dijon Johnson arrested in Tampa

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Laws vary significantly state to state. My first concealed carry permit was living in NC — if one drop of alcohol was consumed while carrying that was breaking the law and you risked losing your permit. That really sucked because if you were going out for the evening - the very time you want to be armed, you couldn’t drink even one beer.

Florida is more gun-friendly — here they establish the same limit as driving, which I think is 0.08%, above which you’re breaking the law if carrying. But I would think carrying while also carrying weed and synthetic shit would be a no bueno, but perhaps I’m wrong on that.

To me, that synthetic shit is the problem. I’m with everybody else that possession of less than an oz of weed is not worth a life-changing arrest. It’s that other shit that is clearly illegal that concerns me - and then the gun may be a problem

 

Has it been confirmed that the “synthetic” was in fact some kind of synthetic and not delta products?

Felony charge is what ramps up the weapons charge. If the felony was not a felony, then the gun charge is not a charge either. I didn’t realize that the stuff they used to sell in gas stations and head shops was now a felony, but if it is, why the hell is that what you’d choose to smuggle across state lines? Real shit is a misdemeanor and you can usually get off with a ticket unless you’re carrying a significant amount. Delta products are legal and available everywhere. Why mess with the k2 and spice junk?

 

I’m not familiar with delta products, or any of the synthetic drugs currently out there.

Your post triggered another question: why are those first two charges listed called “Misdemeanor Felony”. What is it, a misdemeanor or a felony?

 

I don’t care either way. I did vote to legalize it. But having lived in a State that it’s legal in, I also have my reservations about it. I disagree with it in public for the reasons I stated above. I just flat out hate the smell of it personally. Since moving back to Florida from NJ/NY it’s been great not smelling it literally everywhere I go or even driving behind someone. Shouldn’t be allowed to driving and smoking anyway. Even it’s illegal up there but cops don’t even pull you over for running stop lights up there, so they definitely are not pulling you over for smoking. If you want to smoke at your residence, by all means let that happen. I feel the bill would have passed had that been the stipulation. Pretty sure the majority of voters who voted no were more concerned about going to beaches and stuff and it smelling like a Cypress Hill concert.

 

Short and dumbed down explanation: Delta products use a dirtier process to get a thc compound from the cbd found in hemp plants. Essentially a synthesized thc compound, with almost identical makeup to the thc compounds found in a cannabis plant, and they produce similar effects. Hemp plants don't really produce a usable amount of thc, but hemp is legal to grow and hemp products are legal to sell, federally. The market found a loophole and the government has allowed them to use it.

Cannabis plants can produce a significant amount of thc and cbd, and can be extracted with much easier and cleaner methods. <- Much better route if it's available to you.

The spice and k2 type stuff are just bathtub chemicals. They were sold to be consumed with labels that said they weren't for consumption. lol. Sold as potpourri, incents, bath salts, etc. Nasty stuff.

 

Smoking tobacco products is outlawed in most public spaces nowadays. I don't know why it would be any harder to regulate smoking weed in public spaces. Smoking in a car should be the same as drinking in a car. I think this was just a scare tactic that was heavily marketed as a way to prevent the bill from passing. Same for the fear mongering about not being allowed to grow your own. The bill didn't allow or disallow either of these things, it just didn't mention them. Local municipalities could have added any additional regulations they wanted, just like they do for tobacco and alcohol already.

 

Public establishments you are correct about with smoking tobacco. But you can still walk right outside and light up with no worries. As I said about in the vehicle I also agree it should be illegal, but it is still universally done by people who smoke the Devil’s lettuce . I don’t think it’s as much fear mongering as it is the ambiguity of what the proposal was. It’s easier to make an existing law less strict than it is to make it harsher after loopholes are found. So write the law a little clearer, tax it just like tobacco and generate revenue off it.

 

Enforcement is a problem for many laws. Felon in possession of a firearm is one that should be more heavily enforced, but it isn't. Smoking weed in public can be handled just like open container laws and/or other smoking laws. They have plenty of areas where smoking is not permitted at all, so you can't just walk outside and light up, legally. It's not legal on UF's entire campus. Many shopping strips and the like are smoke free areas. If local municipalities don't want you smoking in public spaces, they can make laws on their own to stop it, and they can enforce it themselves. The state doesn't really need a blanket law that's included in the weed bill for this. The hype generated about it was just fear mongering, imo, and it worked.

 

DWB

 

Hes still dumb as hell to have two bags of personal weed, a gun, and a smart mouth all in the same vehicle. Make this a learning experience kid. Major blunder.

 

my uncle is looking at 15 years for felon with a gun. He got a felony in the late 70s or early 80s. Last year he shot a guy for breaking in his house. He had no problem getting off of the person being shot, that was perfectly justified. But this felon with a gun thing may let him die in prison.
I'm all for tougher Laws too so maybe sorry Uncle

 

New incident not related to the others mentioned?

 

Became a felon in t late 70's. Shot an intruder a little over a year ago

 

Did he ever try to get his rights restored? For violent crimes, chances are nil, but if he'd mostly behaved for 40 years and the felony was non-violent, I'd think he'd have some chance at getting his gun rights restored.

 

His wifes brother was a cop and he busted him up pretty good.

 

Yeah, probably no shot after that unless the bil was willing to go to bat for him. Oh well, wouldn’t make a difference now anyway and we all have to live with the choices we make.

 

Yep, he knows he isnt suppose to have a gun. He has to hunt with black powder. Thats not very good for home invasion though.

 

Update: Charges vs Manuel expected to be dropped.