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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Couldn’t have been the jab because racist. Vaccines continue to be the leading cause of coincidences.
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    Let’s get this going again! I so miss the pall of fear and despair.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    Thankfully the vast majority of people just scoff at this today. But we have a few here that are in the extreme minority and scared. All we can do is tell them it will be okay.
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    I am hopeful, but not entirely convinced that the American public could not be hammered into supine terror by psyop as in 2020.

    All it might take is all it took in 2020. Uniquely pernicious pathogen and falling bodies on TV. Maybe a military convoy transporting coffins in Italy which was filmed in 2013, the result of an immigrant vessel sinking but passed off as Covid.

    I have conservative friends who are still testing for Covid.
     
  5. QGator2414

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    I don’t know anyone that would test for it outside a few here on too hot lol…
     
  6. QGator2414

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    For the fun of it I went back to the beginning of this thread and found this obvious reality seen well before we even shut down.

    Yet so many here allowed this to get blown out of proportion. And no doubt the propaganda and likely criminal public health policy is to blame.

    You nailed it before the storm 7_5
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    We have a 5-year old thread on the Coronavirus in the United States. Maybe it's time to start another thread entitled "Influenza in the United States". At this point it would be just as logical.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    I’m always up for talking about another non-existent virus. But when I hear ‘Covid’ I think about crimes against humanity and unprecedented mass-derangement.
     
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  9. Contra

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    I kind of view this like slavery. It ended a long time ago, but we need to beat this dead horse and keep bringing it up to make sure we don’t repeat the mistakes of the past. ;)
     
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  10. gator_fever

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    Effect of BNT162b2 mRNA booster vaccination on VO2 max in recreational athletes: A prospective cohort study - PMC

    Crazy that deadly shot affected VO2 max that much in 19% of the people tested. Many younger people who had absolutely no business taking that shot were destroyed physically by it. Lie after lie to push this monstrosity on the world's populations. Tell them it stops the spread of Covid when you know it doesn't, tell them people are dying from ivermectin with 100% fake news stories claiming that planted by the crooked mainstream media, tell them that the spike protein artificially created stays in the arm area or thigh area where the shot was given even though you know that is 100% false.
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    Did you actually read the study? Or just link it and draw your own conclusions. Here is some verbiage, taken verbatim, from the study you linked.

    We found no serological or echocardiographic evidence of (peri)myocarditis. A slight but significant increase in hsCRP was noted 1 week after vaccination. Side effects were mild and sports participation was generally unchanged or mildly decreased after vaccination.

    Vaccination is highly recommended for athletes. It is advised that this should be done outside the competition period to minimize interference with training and competition as a result of potential side effects. 1 Recent recommendations, however, state that delaying severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS‐CoV‐2) vaccination until sports/competition is complete may not be desirable. 2 This is of course due to the ongoing pandemic with greater health risks from the disease (COVID‐19) than from vaccination.
    The study is saying there are some side effects in athletes, but they are mostly minor, and they go away on their own in a short time. The study also recommends vaccination in athletes, and if possible, to schedule the shot during an off-season for athletes. But if that's not possible, choose the vaccine over waiting.

    There is a slight risk of side effects from the vaccine. But the benefits far outweigh the short-term side effects. And long term, here's another study looking at SCA (Sudden Cardiac Events) in younger, male athletes before and after COVID. It also looks at the vaccine. Their conclusion:

    This cohort study found no increase in SCA/SCD in young competitive athletes in the US during the COVID-19 pandemic, suggesting that reports asserting otherwise were overestimating the cardiovascular risk of COVID-19 infection, vaccination, and myocarditis. Many athlete cases shown in social media video montages occurred before the pandemic yet claimed COVID-19 infection or vaccination raised the risk of SCA/SCD. Paratz et al4 also showed no association between out-of-hospital cardiac arrest and the COVID-19 vaccination in young people, and Daems et al5 found no evidence that COVID-19 mRNA vaccination increases the risk of SCA/SCD in athletes.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    My favorite lie was all those people on their Covid deathbeds begging for a vaccine in their final moments.
     
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    19% in this small number showed a very large drop in VO2 max.
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    Remember: if Covid vaccines killed ONE person, they outkilled the fictitious pathogen they were manufactured to prevent.
     
  15. AzCatFan

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    Yes. But read the full study. The side-effect wasn't life threatening and things quickly went back to normal about a week after receiving the shot. And the study highly recommends athletes being vaccinated, because the positives far outweigh the negatives. The best way to mitigate the small danger from the vaccine, as the study suggests, is to vaccinate athletes during their offseason.

    And if you're looking for a bigger connection between the COVID vaccine and heart disease destroying the careers of athletes, there is no correlation. SCA events did not increase after COVID or after widespread COVID vaccinations. Rates have remained stable.
     
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    To put the loss of VO2 Max into perspective, a Scandinavian research project looked at loss of VO2 Max after cyclists got sick or injured and could not train over a maximum of a 3 month period. By the end of 3 months, the VO2 Max reduction was 16%. Significant, but would it be life threatening for a cyclist to get back on a bike and start riding after a 90 day hiatus? No.

    And again, the VO2 Max loss from the vaccine is temporary. Athletes tend to fully recover any loss within a week. Best practice would be to vaccinate during any offseason, and monitor the athletes for any loss in performance right after vaccination. But stop vaccinating athletes? The original study recommends vaccination, because the benefits far outweigh the small, short-term temporary losses.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    ^ takeaway: vaccines something you have to recover from, much like the thing they were manufactured to prevent.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    This is a true statement. Vaccines are designed to provoke your immune response, which often causes fatigue, soreness, and yes, a reduction in oxygen intake. The reason you take the vaccine is the short term effects of the vaccine are mild and much safer than having a full infection. And often times, when you are vaccinated, you gain an immunity to the disease. And even if you have a breakthrough case and get infected, your illness is much milder and you get healthy much quicker.
     
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  19. duggers_dad

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    “Immune system” implies that there is something to be immune from. There is no such thing.

    [insert side effect here] is simply the body’s response to the trauma which is the injection.
     
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