Trump: “I think I have more power now.”

No you do not.
And that’s why I didn’t ask you that question.
And I have never confused you for a libbie.

 

I didn’t vote for Obama but this is just a dumb statement. Obama is nothing like the mirror reflection of Trump.

 

Obama isnt exactly like Trump and I never said he was.
But Trump was born from Obama's hateful rhetoric.

 

Please cite specific examples of Obama's "hateful rhetoric."

Your deepseated dislike for the man is NOT a substitute for providing documented words, phrases, sentences or speeches to illustrate your point.

Still upset that he once wore a tan suit? Get over it.

 

If you haven’t heard his many snarky, condescending remarks, it’s likely because you liked it and didn’t notice.
It’s how 90% of our resident libbies post in TH.
Not shocking that his nastiness didn’t bother you.
But congratulations…you’re the reason we got Trumped.

 

Yet you cannot cite a single example ‐ you just keep repeating empty generalizations. If you were so gawdawful offended, how come you can't recall a single thing he said to illustrate your point?

 

Oh I remember.
We all remember.
No matter what I post you’ll just disagree.
We all know how this works.
But rest assured…you voted for Obama, you created Trump.

 

He has more power now because he has the Epstein list... Lol.

 

I’ve been thinking about your idea here, Bluke, as it represents a fascinating double edged sword. On the one hand, you are pointing out what I think is a real influence that is still under-appreciated by the left. On the other, this idea actually embodies liberal fatalism that the right has been trying to combat, suggesting that one is a product of their environment and powerless to rise above it.

If we accept your premise that Obama voters are responsible for Trump’s election, we also must accept that Trump voters are responsible for what comes next. You might as well take responsibility on this thread right now: Disturbing Glimpses of Democratic Anger

I’m reading a lovely book, Morality, by the British rabbi Jonathan Sacks, in which he notes how many former concentration camp victims seem extremely successful and fulfilled. He found a common thread among them that they first looked to the future before turning to the past. Their first thoughts were about how to build a family, a business, a life. Only many decades later did they start to open up about their terrible experiences. They had a choice, as our common hero Viktor Frankl, described. His insights were captured nicely by another holocaust survivor / therapist Edith Eger: “Suffering is universal, but victimhood is optional.” If we are ever to break the cycle, one side has to stop dwelling on the past to look to the future.

 

A wonderful, fair post.
I agree that I do have to take responsibility for my vote and what comes next.
The truth is all of us will vote for whomever makes it to the final ballot. It’s frustrating because I saw enough from Trump the first term to know I didn’t want that again.
And I’m only half serious about Obama creating Trump…there’s definitely something in there though.
Appreciate your post and insights.
Nice Frankl reference…

 

This ark is going down in flames in the middle of the ocean. I wouldn't be too quick to get on an ark captained by Trump. Hopefully, the next president can salvage a free and democratic country when Trump finishes burning this one down.