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SCOTUS rules South Carolina can withhold Medicaid funds from Planned Parenthood

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jun 26, 2025 at 11:03 AM.

  1. gaterzfan

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  2. tilly

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    Um...who did I vote for?
    (Hint it was neither the republican candidates for governor in my state or POTUS)

    I am long on record as saying all I have done since 2016 is vote for local things like county commission, local referendums etc
     
  3. tilly

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    We should defund their abortion arm...which does get state money ...and be reasonable and smart about the rest.
     
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  4. slayerxing

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    Sounds like excuses to hide from any responsibility for your vote, or lack of vote.
     
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  6. tilly

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    That makes no sense. You made an accusation about who I voted for. I didnt vote for anyone that fits the description.

    So, are you expecting me to vote for the other side that has agendas contrary to my beliefs?

    I should sacrifice integrity for what? Approval by the left?

    Nah, I'm good giving neither side my support with my valuable right to do with my one vote exactly as I feel convicted.

    Both sides are power hungry and lacking any real principles. BOTH side wage culture wars and live to simply own the other.

    So use your vote as you see fit. I support it wholeheartedly. But understand I will do the same with mine. Sometimes that means not using it at all.
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    Maybe it's just me but considering that one of the more effective ways of reducing abortions is to provide access to contraception defund an organization that promotes contraception does seem logical if one is supposedly prolife. Similarly defunding cancer screenings and other medical care primarily for women doesn't exactly strike me as being "prolife".
     
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    I've often heard the argument (but haven't done a deep dive) that because money is fungible, funding any non-abortive aspects or "arms" of PP has the practical effect of supporting abortion services. I'm sure that's a concern for some. Of course, there are folks who oppose contraception generally and/or oppose specific drugs which they consider abortifacients.
     
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    dude you get hyper sensitive about your specific vote. I said you all not you. Regardless don’t both sides me on reproductive freedom. It’s total bs. If you support conservative ideas you don’t get to hide behind - oh but I didn’t vote in state or federal. Your lack of vote excuses nothing - you live in a binary system your lack of vote in opposition is imo, worse, because You just sit there watching waiving your arms in the air absolving yourself of responsibility. It bothers me more than the people that own it, honestly. If you werent so loud about defending yourself as a non voter I could let it go but your self righteous outrage anytime someone calls out your conservative views by saying you didn’t vote for the current despicable in office is just getting old.
     
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    agreed. You are always welcome to PM & call me what you want.

    p.s. I have to call Janet Ms. Jackson
     
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    Once again, Trump's policies disadvantage the most vulnerable of our citizens.
     
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    They don't make music like that anymore.
     
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    never been a big JJ fan, but Rhythm Nation is respectable.
     
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    The unborn babies?
     
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  15. tilly

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    Lol. You brought up the voting part brother. Dont get angry because I defended my position.

    And by the way, my non vote is only a protest at one aide. My own. My outrage is only aimed at them. I have no expectations for the other side
    I will never vote for the side that has extremists who think dismemberment of inborn kids in the womb an acceptable form of "birth control".

    I agree about contraceptives and think PP should get funding for all the services excluding abortion.
     
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    By the way in one post you said "you" and in one you said "you all", in both cases you are clearly including me. Am I wrong to distance myself? How is that "hyper sensitive"?
     
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    My wife and I adopted two children. We had to lie on our application to say we were good Christian’s. That states use faith based organizations to handle this does not mean it is in fact true.
     
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    All these disagree clicks and no one can disprove it. I used to work with World Vision (the largest child aid organization in the world). I was privy to data that told us where the money came from.
     
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    I mean that sorta proves my point though.
    If christians/conservatives etc were not pro life AFTER birth, what benefit would it be for you to claim to be Christian when doing so?

    Regardless, that is a very noble choice and I have very deep respect for you and your wife.

    We just attended the wedding of our best friends daughter. They adopted her at age 6.

    My sister adopted two minority children and is raising them as a single mom.

    Another close family friends of ours adopted 4.

    We probably have 15-20 adopted kids in our close circle. It's an amazing calling.
     
  20. rivergator

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    Seems obvious to me. If the state simply wants to defund abortion, then defund abortion. If the feds are able to do it with Hyde, the state should be able to figure out a way to do it with Medicaid. But don't defund all the other 97 percent of services that PP provides. What's the point of that?
     
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