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U.S. May Have Only Five Years of Oil Left

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Jun 21, 2025 at 10:07 AM.

  1. chemgator

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    I mentioned this issue in a couple of other threads, but it is important enough to get its own thread.

    The U.S. may reach "peak oil" in as little as five years (I've seen another estimate of 7 years, and a crazy estimate of 227 years). We are extracting more than ever before, and we are using more than ever before. After five years, we will start importing oil from other countries, and the price will go up. We will also be subjected to things like oil embargoes, like we had in 1973. Long lines of cars waiting at the gas stations for the gas tanker truck to show up. Rationing of gas means you can only buy a few gallons at a time. We can get back to where we were in the 1970's, paying 11% of our income for transportation. Our economy will be affected negatively, and our GDP will suffer, and our federal debt will increase dramatically, eventually triggering massive inflation.

    Was this necessary? Of course not. We have had relatively weak leadership on this issue from democrats for decades now. We have had no leadership on this issue from republicans. The republican position on conserving oil (as a "conservative" should be willing to do) is exemplified by "Drill, Baby, Drill".

    Is the issue too complex to solve? Of course not. We have technology that converts sunshine into battery energy that drives cars, and we have technology that could nearly double the fuel efficiency of the cars we drive. On top of that, we have done little to discourage the trends towards larger and more powerful vehicles that use more fuel.

    What should we be doing right now? Taxing the hell out of gasoline. Make people pay for it if they want to drive a monster truck or oversized SUV getting 12 mpg. That's a small slap in the face compared to getting all of your teeth knocked out in five years. Increase the gas tax gradually, like $0.05 every 3 months, and it will not be a total shock or cause panic or upset to the economy. Prevent it from hurting the working poor by increasing minimum wage (again, gradually). Same with SS COLA. To a person driving an average 12,500 miles a year in a car getting an average 25 mpg (using 500 gal of gas), the price of gas will go up $100 a year. Is this enough to change America's atrocious driving habits? I don't know. But we need to do something soon if we don't want to return to the early 1970's.

    Doing nothing is not an intelligent option. If we allow ourselves to become dependent on OPEC and Russia again, we're screwed and our days as a superpower are numbered. And that means that civilization on earth is screwed. So if you don't support "Tax, Baby, Tax", then you support the alternative, "Kneel, Baby, Kneel" and you should buy a small bust of Putin and another one of the current Saudi king, so you can pray to them to not take too much of your money. The only other option I can think of is to invade Russia and the other oil producers and take their oil, which sounds like a solution our own Dear Leader might come up with (but would probably end very badly).

    United States Oil Reserves, Production and Consumption Statistics - Worldometer


    Oil Reserves
    35,230,000,000 barrels
    Global Rank: #11 | Share of World: 2.13%
    5 years of oil left
    (at current consumption levels)
     
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  2. Orange_and_Bluke

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  3. oragator1

    oragator1 Hurricane Hunter Premium Member

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    Our handling of energy has been among the dumbest series of policy decisions in U.S. history. And now in the house budget bill, they have a $100 a year tax on hybrid cars, and want to get rid of the tax credit for buying them.
    Oil is a dwindling resource. It also is largely controlled by countries we don’t like, and the technology that comes with clean energy will be worth trillions in the future. So what do we do? We let China take the lead in clean energy development, double down on that dwindling resource with “drill baby drill” which leaves us still dependent on the crazies in the Middle East, Russia and Venezuela, and now going so far as to even disincentivize it moving forward.
    I just can’t even fathom how we elect leaders this dumb.
     
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  4. chemgator

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    Welcome to the Idiocracy.
     
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    Don’t worry. Donald Dumb is playing 3D tiddlywinks with the future of America. All part of the plan to get back to the good old days (as in the 1700s when we run out of gas).
     
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  6. gator_jo

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    ^ All of this.

    Our response to 9/11 should have been a $0.10 annual increase to the federal gas tax. (Still might be under EU prices in such a scenario.)

    But we just elected a guy whose sum plan for reducing inflation was drilling more oil. We are indeed an Idiocracy.*


    * But we (the majority of us) are also just silently watching another round of big debt-addition in order to have tax cuts. Truly Idiocracy.
     
  7. ncargat1

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    Take a drive through Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas. You will understand very quickly (unless you are a minority, then I recommend you NEVER going to any of those states...at least by yourself).
     
  8. Gator515151

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    Or we could tax the hell out of the fixed base operations that fuel the private jets of folks like Al Gore or Nancy Pelosi.
     
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  9. chemgator

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    Oooh, brilliant. Private jets consume 2% of aviation fuel, and 8% of oil in the U.S. goes into aviation fuel. That means that private jets consume 0.16% of oil. Your brilliant plan will help reduce oil usage by up to 0.16% (more likely, about 0.01%). The other 99.99% of oil usage will continue like it always has. Impressive. You almost solved the problem--you were only off by 99.99%. About 45% of U.S. oil goes towards private vehicle consumption, and about 21-22% goes into commercial transportation. Both would be affected by a gasoline/diesel tax. Industry uses 27% of oil, but that could be taxed separately.
     
  10. slocala

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    Skeptical. We have been talking about peak oil since the 70’s. The shale revolution changed. Drilling is down. All the lower 48 conventional plays and shale plays got their talking points from IPAA and are parroting to the street. It’s propaganda? Feels like this is all scare tactics to open up Federal lands and Alaska. Maybe that is the right answer. Whatever happens, it won’t be bi-partisan and it will be a cluster. Only the military can force the hand. An energy policy that the military says has to happen will course correct.
     
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  11. Gator515151

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    Notice to @coleg
    Exactly why did you give me an off topic rating. Read the thread title or the first post or the sentence from the first post I quoted and please explain why my post was off topic.
     
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  13. Gator515151

    Gator515151 GC Hall of Fame

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    One hell of a democrat you are, let's tax the hell out of the poor and middle class but the millionaires are free to fly around in their private jets because they don't use much fuel anyway.
     
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  14. demosthenes

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    Taxation changes behavior. A lot of poor people smoked cigarettes before we started taxing the hell out of them. We should be moving away from burning oil in cars for energy independence, health, and climate reasons. Seems like pretty good reasons to change behaviors.
     
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  15. Donzo

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    Glorious thread!

    It highlights how broken and triggered the violent, hate driven left has become in the US.
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    Just an FYI:

    The U.S. has significant oil reserves, both proven and technically recoverable. Proved reserves are estimated at around 48.3 billion barrels, while technically recoverable resources are estimated to be much larger, potentially exceeding 160 billion barrels. Additionally, the U.S. has substantial oil shale resources, estimated at 800 billion barrels.
     
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  16. coleg

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    1) As fully explained in post 9, the amount is insignificant. 2) Those folks with private jets are not going to be deterred by an increased tax- they have money to burn. 3) Ludicrous to assert that the only Democrats are to blame 4) "Private" jets are nearly all corporate owned, and are mostly business n nature. So the entire premise you made to conserve dwindling American oil by bringing up the Dem. waste of "fuel the private jets of folks like Al Gore or Nancy Pelosi." was not correct, relevant or useful so therefore off topic.
     
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    It wasn't supposed to be a solution to the problem you posted. It's just a dig at two Democrats, completely ignoring our current commuting president, who flies approximately 2,000 miles a week with a very expensive, tax-payer funded, entourage.
     
  18. oragator1

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    If folks really wanna start a political feud on it, this is from a few years ago but doubt much has changed.:
    https://www.autoremarketing.com/ar/...are-liberal-voters-more-conservative-at-pump/
     
  19. g8orbill

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    not sure I believe this
     
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